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  • From: Koreen Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Studies on keyline effectiveness?
  • Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:08:03 -0700 (PDT)

Thanks very much for this info Darren. Very interesting and helpful! Would
love to see more studies done on this as "anecdotal" evidence clearly shows
improvement. 
 
Koreen Brennan

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________________________________
From: Heenan Doherty <heenandoherty@gmail.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Studies on keyline effectiveness?


G'day Koreen,

Please find following a couple of recent developments that you might want
to keep an eye on regarding this thread:

http://a-c-s.confex.com/crops/2011am/webprogram/Paper68104.html
http://onpasture.com/2013/06/17/keyline-plowing-what-is-it-does-it-work/

We've had some lively exchanges on our HeenanDoherty
Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/HeenanDoherty>since I posted this
'On Pasture' article link earlier in the week. Added to
this have been some replies from a variety of 'Keyliners' to the article
page itself including from myself, Chris Gill and Owen Hablutzel...

Hope that this helps on what is otherwise a very under-studied field...

Cheers,

Darren

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On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Koreen Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com> wrote:

> That was what I was afraid of. I will contact Owen and see what he has.
> Glad you are out there getting some documentation done, Rafter. I hope many
> others take your lead and start documenting.
>
>
>
>
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>  From: rafter sass ferguson <liberationecology@gmail.com>
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Studies on keyline effectiveness?
>
>
> To my knowledge - and mild astonishment -  there have been no formal
> studies of keyline.
>
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> > Subject: [permaculture] Studies on keyline effectiveness?
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> > Does anybody here know: Have any studies been done showing the
> > effectiveness of keyline plows? If not studies, any form of formal
> > measurements or comparisons of outcomes? ?
> > ?
> > Koreen Brennan
> >
> > www.growpermaculture.com
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> > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 10:11:04 +1000
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Thanks Koreen,

Did you look at the exchanges on our Facebook? (
www.facebook.com/heenandoherty)? There were some more than reasonable
anecdotes there I thought. Of course most producers don't make the time or
have the resources to undertake research that satisfies the paradigm of
science...

All the best, Darren

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On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Koreen Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks very much for this info Darren. Very interesting and helpful! Would
> love to see more studies done on this as "anecdotal" evidence clearly shows
> improvement.
>
> Koreen Brennan
>
> www.growpermaculture.com
> www.facebook.com/growpermaculturenow
> www.meetup.com/sustainable-urban-agriculture-coalition
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Heenan Doherty <heenandoherty@gmail.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 12:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Studies on keyline effectiveness?
>
>
> G'day Koreen,
>
> Please find following a couple of recent developments that you might want
> to keep an eye on regarding this thread:
>
> http://a-c-s.confex.com/crops/2011am/webprogram/Paper68104.html
> http://onpasture.com/2013/06/17/keyline-plowing-what-is-it-does-it-work/
>
> We've had some lively exchanges on our HeenanDoherty
> Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/HeenanDoherty>since I posted this
> 'On Pasture' article link earlier in the week. Added to
> this have been some replies from a variety of 'Keyliners' to the article
> page itself including from myself, Chris Gill and Owen Hablutzel...
>
> Hope that this helps on what is otherwise a very under-studied field...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Darren
>
> Yours & Growing,
>
> Lisa Heenan & Darren J. Doherty
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> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Koreen Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > That was what I was afraid of. I will contact Owen and see what he has.
> > Glad you are out there getting some documentation done, Rafter. I hope
> many
> > others take your lead and start documenting.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: rafter sass ferguson <liberationecology@gmail.com>
> > To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [permaculture] Studies on keyline effectiveness?
> >
> >
> > To my knowledge - and mild astonishment - there have been no formal
> > studies of keyline.
> >
> >
> > Message: 2
> > > Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:54:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Koreen Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: [permaculture] Studies on keyline effectiveness?
> > > To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <1371502481.47996.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> > >
> > > Does anybody here know: Have any studies been done showing the
> > > effectiveness of keyline plows? If not studies, any form of formal
> > > measurements or comparisons of outcomes? ?
> > > ?
> > > Koreen Brennan
> > >
> > > www.growpermaculture.com
> > > www.facebook.com/growpermaculturenow
> > > www.meetup.com/sustainable-urban-agriculture-coalition
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 10:11:04 +1000
> > > From: " wildearthpermaculture@gmail.com "
> > > <wildearthpermaculture@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [permaculture] Studies on keyline effectiveness?
> > > To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Message-ID: <51bfa59a.e166440a.5d40.fffffbbf@mx.google.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > PhD Candidate | Crop Sciences Department
> > University of Illinois in Urbana-Champaign
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