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  • From: John Fritz <johnfritz77@yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: [permaculture] Re, swales vs. keyline (Albert Johnson)
  • Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:14:14 -0700 (PDT)









Hi Albert,
 
I don't have GPS coordinates.  The address is 17065 Holcombe School Rd., West
Fork, AR 72774, if that helps.  Yes, I would like to have swales leading to
at least one dam.  The slope at the southwest part of the property, leading 
towards and down to the northwest is the leading prospect for this as far as
I can tell.  There is already a rudimentary swale adjacent to and to the east
of  the slope, leading beyond the property line to the pond on the neighbor's
property to the south.  This pond stays fairly  full throughout the year so I
guess it would work for the pond I would like.  Not much snow in these parts. 
Perhaps 12" per year, but this is part of the 46" average annual
precipitation.  My main objective is to increase the biomass of the pasture
as it is sparse in some parts. I think this is owing to the precipitation
draining away too fast for the grass to use it. It appears the swale leading
beyond the property line to the south is
abetting this excess drainage.  Also, I would like to drill a shallow well
if possible and increasing the moisture in the soil may make this a more
likely possibility.  Post back if you have any more questions.
 
John Fritz, NW Arkansas.











Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:05:40 -0400
From: Albert Johnston <johnston.albertg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] swaling versus keyline
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Hello John,

I am a permaculture student of April's.  I would like to know where the land
is so I can look at the contour on Google Maps. Also I would like to know if
you would want the swales to be connected to a pond or dam?

How much rainfall and snowfall  is there per year?

Maybe if the swales solve more problems than the keyline plow that would be
the way to go.
     




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Hello all,

Do any of you have any tips on acquiring inexpensively-priced land? It
doesn't have to be the best land, nor does it have to be developed or
settled land. Just land to live and permaculture on. The author of a blog I
read (Ran Prieur) acquired a few acres of logged out Idaho land from a
logging company on the cheap. I'm wondering if there are any other ways to
get land without taking out a mortgage or leasing it.
Degraded land (logged out, intensively farmed, etc) especially would be
good.
I'm thinking about $10,000-20,000.

Best regards and thank you for your wisdom.




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