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  • From: Bear Kaufmann <bear@ursine-design.com>
  • To: pcplantdb <pcplantdb@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [pcplantdb] new comments on 0.2.3 - advanced search
  • Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:40:44 -0700

-can the tabs be equal sizes? i.e. "Vision" is smaller than "Get Involved"
and it might look nicer if they were equal. (actually is "Vision" written in
smaller font? it looks like it.)
Actually they are all the same font. Must be an optical illusion.

-can all the logos not be smushed in the center, but spaced evenly accross the
footer?
Working on it.

-can "advanced" be written in a font that you can see it (not light blue if
the background is darker blue - something that stands out a bit more)?
Yes. I'll try back.

-and what's the arrow next to advanced for? if you can click on "Advanced"
why have the arrow?
It's meant to imply you can click to expand the options, a la a folder, and it signals the state (up or down). But OK, seems like a different UI widget might get the point across better.
BTW - John, I'm thinking of a technique which should allow a graceful degrade of the collapse expand feature (Links in the HTML go to a URL with a GET value ?expanded=advanced which can set the class of the #advanced div, then use body onload to replace the links with the toggle action if javascript is there. Meaning a refresh to get the toggle action on non-JS browsers, and the regular feature otherwise). Still have to implement that.

the layout of the search feels awkward to me...I'll think
about why.
Yeah, note that this is really just a few dummy values, for the sake of design, I don't have the whole search filled in yet.

-for some reason, I don't like the little spotty rays of the sun in the upper
left. they look messy. can they be bolder, more defined instead of wishy
washy?
Yes, true. I'll just try removing them for now.

-did you take that photograph? it's beautiful. have you showed off your
photography to the group?
Actually I've got it rotating through about 5 images for the header. Try reloading and you'll see something different. I'm not sure which one you saw. They are all mine though.

I know Lawrence has seen some. I've really got to revamp my website, put up nicer photos on it. Unfortunately my small time webhost for my website, seems really busy and hasn't fixed an FTP permissions problem. I'm tempted to move on. Anyway, I'll get something nicer up soon to show my work shortly.

if not you SHOULD. actually I wanted to ask you
something (since no one is probably reading this anyway) - a friend of mine is
doing her medical school rotation at oakland children's hospital and she's
doing a presentation there soon. she wants some imagery to go along with her
presentation (about embryology of the heart) and I sugggested that she talk to
you. I feel like you'd probably have a photograph of something (water, sap)
that mimics the bloodflow phenomenon she's discussing. anyways, we can talk
more...
Yes, lets talk offline.

back to piw...this more recent iteration looks really nice, Bear.
Good. Thanks.

-Wait, there's more. So I tried switching to Thunderbird. Or shall I say,
Bear tried switching me to Thunderbird. It didn't work for some reason. Hey
Bear, considering the technical expertise we gots here - could you please
explain why it didn't work in case someone can figure it out?
It was rather late in the evening, I'm sure the problem is fixable. The username/password wasn't passing though using POP or IMAP. Not quite sure why, may not have the right port or authentication (which they wanted), or servername, or something. I should probably just run through the settings again per the instructions on the site. Or Steph, you might want to tell Thunderbird to make a new account and try entering all the values in the instructions (in a slow, thoughtful manner), see if I didn't dot my t's and cross my i's.

-Chad asked an interesting question, "Ok, thinking more about relationships
and I've come to an interesting sticky place in my thinking. My question is,
are we talking about an object that has a relationship to one or more objects
or a set of objects that have a relationship with each other or is it
sometimes one and sometimes the other?" Could this be different levels of
zoom? 'Zoom in' on one object, and view all of the relationships it has with
other objects. But you could also 'zoom out' and view groups of objects
(companion plants <--> full guilds) and their relationships with other
objects/groups of objects. Does it have to be one or the other? Mimic Gaia.
Good meaty topic I'd love to discuss, just too tired now.
Let's keep this one on the table.

Cheers,
Bear





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