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  • From: Mary Jane Meadows <meadows.maryjane AT gmail.com>
  • To: ocba AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [ocba] ocba Digest, Vol 135, Issue 8
  • Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:24:05 -0400

My Sincere Apologies for offering to pick up queens for people. I spoke with
the man who has queens for sale and he is unable to fill additional orders at
this time. He is swamped with work right now and he does not keep his queens
in separate cages. It takes him an hour or 2 to find and capture the queens
for sale and he simply does not have time to fill multiple orders right now.
Again, I apologize for misinformation ~ my desires to "help community" jumped
in ahead of me fully checking out the logistics!
Thanks for understanding,
Jane

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> 1. Split sale & land for your hive? (Fadem, Bronwyn Elizabeth)
> 2. Re: Split sale & land for your hive? (John Rintoul)
> 3. Fwd: Queen s for Sale (Walter Starks)
> 4. Re: Fwd: Queen s for Sale (jenshobbyfarm AT gmail.com)
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> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 10:53:09 +0000
> From: "Fadem, Bronwyn Elizabeth" <bfadem AT live.unc.edu>
> To: "ocba AT lists.ibiblio.org" <ocba AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: [ocba] Split sale & land for your hive?
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> Greetings OCBA!
>
> I have written before, but I am the new beekeeper for Hope Gardens, a UNC
> student run non-profit community garden at 2200 Homestead Rd. in Chapel
> Hill. I have two questions and would like input from some of the more
> experienced/knowledgeable beekeepers out there, as well as to gauge
> interest, in general.
>
> As a non-profit, we are always brainstorming ways to fundraise. I have two
> ideas: selling a split (nuc?) and/or providing space for other beekeepers
> to keep a hive or two out at our garden for an annual fee. We do not have
> the funds to pay for a new hive setup to keep the split ourselves, so could
> anyone let me know how I would go about preparing to split it and create a
> nuc to sell? Or would anyone be interested in buying some brood frames
> and/or a nuc? (I don't really know the technicalities)
>
> Also, does anyone have experience with "renting" space at their property to
> other beekeepers? I know some of you have mentioned obstacles with your
> neighborhood association restrictions, for example, and I thought maybe it
> would be possible and there would be interest in keeping a hive out at our
> garden. Similar to how we rent community garden plots, we could offer space
> for a hive at an annual fee. Our location has maintained extremely
> productive and resilient bees for the last four summers. I have already
> harvested about 4 gallons of honey from our two hives this year, with
> another flow ready for harvest soon! I'm not sure if this type of agreement
> is even possible or desirable, but please feel free to let me know your
> thoughts or ask questions.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Bronwyn Fadem
>
> Hope Gardens Beekeeper
>
> Co-Founder of Herban Garden, a community space that nurtures and inspires
> underserved youth through food cultivation
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 10:04:32 -0400
> From: John Rintoul <beecd AT icloud.com>
> To: "Fadem, Bronwyn Elizabeth" <bfadem AT live.unc.edu>
> Cc: "ocba AT lists.ibiblio.org" <ocba AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [ocba] Split sale & land for your hive?
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> Bronwyn,
>
> I'm glad to hear that the Hope Garden bees are productive. I don't speak
> for all of OCBA and I don't want to discourage your efforts, but I will
> share my thoughts on your post. Others may offer a different perspective.
>
> 1) Typically a split/nuc (whether created for sale or to increase the
> number of hives in your apiary) is created early in the spring ahead of the
> prime nectar flow in NC. That gives the bees time and resources to prosper
> and build stores. We are now coming up on the end of that flow. It is not
> the best time to split a hive, especially for a beekeeper who has never
> done it before. Creating a split also requires additional woodenware
> whether or not the garden plans to keep the split. As to the
> technicalities, there are several good books available on the
> technicalities of making splits and beekeeping generally.
>
> 2) The usual practice is for a landowner to pay the beekeeper to put hives
> on the landowner's property. What you are proposing is the opposite of that
> arrangement. Some landowners volunteer their property as a site for bees so
> your proposed rental option would be competing with "free." Beekeepers are
> traditionally a frugal crowd. Free usually wins.
>
> 3) Selling the honey that you have harvested would be a great way to
> generate income for the garden. It is has an indefinite shelf life, unlike
> produce. So it could be sold over time. You may be able to sell/auction it
> at a premium to supporters of the garden as Hope Garden Honey or some other
> clever marketing.
>
> John Rintoul
> (919) 414-4071
>
>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:53 AM, Fadem, Bronwyn Elizabeth <bfadem AT live.unc.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings OCBA!
>>
>> I have written before, but I am the new beekeeper for Hope Gardens, a UNC
>> student run non-profit community garden at 2200 Homestead Rd. in Chapel
>> Hill. I have two questions and would like input from some of the more
>> experienced/knowledgeable beekeepers out there, as well as to gauge
>> interest, in general.
>>
>> As a non-profit, we are always brainstorming ways to fundraise. I have two
>> ideas: selling a split (nuc?) and/or providing space for other beekeepers
>> to keep a hive or two out at our garden for an annual fee. We do not have
>> the funds to pay for a new hive setup to keep the split ourselves, so
>> could anyone let me know how I would go about preparing to split it and
>> create a nuc to sell? Or would anyone be interested in buying some brood
>> frames and/or a nuc? (I don't really know the technicalities)
>>
>> Also, does anyone have experience with "renting" space at their property
>> to other beekeepers? I know some of you have mentioned obstacles with your
>> neighborhood association restrictions, for example, and I thought maybe it
>> would be possible and there would be interest in keeping a hive out at our
>> garden. Similar to how we rent community garden plots, we could offer
>> space for a hive at an annual fee. Our location has maintained extremely
>> productive and resilient bees for the last four summers. I have already
>> harvested about 4 gallons of honey from our two hives this year, with
>> another flow ready for harvest soon! I'm not sure if this type of
>> agreement is even possible or desirable, but please feel free to let me
>> know your thoughts or ask questions.
>>
>> Thanks so much!
>>
>> Bronwyn Fadem
>>
>> Hope Gardens Beekeeper
>>
>> Co-Founder of Herban Garden, a community space that nurtures and inspires
>> underserved youth through food cultivation
>>
>>
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> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 22:03:29 -0400
> From: Walter Starks <walterstarks AT icloud.com>
> To: Orange County Beekeepers Association <ocba AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: [ocba] Fwd: Queen s for Sale
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> Just in case anyone needs a queen.
>
> ______
>
> Walter
>
>
> You never can tell with bees. ~ Winnie-the-Pooh
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>> From: Mary Jane Meadows <meadows.maryjane AT icloud.com>
>> Date: June 9, 2016 at 5:54:31 PM EDT
>> To: walterstarks AT icloud.com
>> Subject: Queen s for Sale
>>
>> Hello Walter,
>>
>> I am part of the Chatham County Beekeepers group. I have 2 top bar hives
>> and one of them is not thriving & needs a queen. Don Hopkins was here
>> this afternoon and put me in touch with Jeremy Tyson in Rockingham County
>> (Wentworth) to see if he had any queens for sale. According to his
>> partner he does have queens & he has 20 for sale!
>>
>> So I am waiting for him to call me back this evening, but most likely I
>> will be driving up to get a queen late tomorrow afternoon or on Saturday
>> morning.
>>
>> Seems like there could be other folks in need of a queen too? and maybe we
>> should connect and I could bring home multiple queens? When I mentioned
>> this to Don, he suggested letting you know so you could post something on
>> the Orange County Beekeepers list serve.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for you help in spreading the word,
>>
>> Jane Meadows
>> 919-357-1711
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 22:36:44 -0400
> From: jenshobbyfarm AT gmail.com
> To: Walter Starks <walterstarks AT icloud.com>
> Cc: Orange County Beekeepers Association <ocba AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [ocba] Fwd: Queen s for Sale
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> They have queens often at Bailey Bee Supply in Hillsborough.
>
> Jennifer Hall
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 9, 2016, at 10:03 PM, Walter Starks <walterstarks AT icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just in case anyone needs a queen.
>>
>> ______
>>
>> Walter
>>
>>
>> You never can tell with bees. ~ Winnie-the-Pooh
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Mary Jane Meadows <meadows.maryjane AT icloud.com>
>>> Date: June 9, 2016 at 5:54:31 PM EDT
>>> To: walterstarks AT icloud.com
>>> Subject: Queen s for Sale
>>>
>>> Hello Walter,
>>>
>>> I am part of the Chatham County Beekeepers group. I have 2 top bar hives
>>> and one of them is not thriving & needs a queen. Don Hopkins was here
>>> this afternoon and put me in touch with Jeremy Tyson in Rockingham County
>>> (Wentworth) to see if he had any queens for sale. According to his
>>> partner he does have queens & he has 20 for sale!
>>>
>>> So I am waiting for him to call me back this evening, but most likely I
>>> will be driving up to get a queen late tomorrow afternoon or on Saturday
>>> morning.
>>>
>>> Seems like there could be other folks in need of a queen too? and maybe
>>> we should connect and I could bring home multiple queens? When I
>>> mentioned this to Don, he suggested letting you know so you could post
>>> something on the Orange County Beekeepers list serve.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for you help in spreading the word,
>>>
>>> Jane Meadows
>>> 919-357-1711
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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