What language do you feel is accurate? If you get right down to it,
it is very hard to use a word that someone can’t find an objection to. “Organic”
isn’t OK, unless you can control everything within approximately 5 miles of your
hive. “Natural” isn’t OK, unless you use a tree or similar for your
hive.
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [ocba] A Modest Proposal - could we clarify this
please?
Could
we please stop using the term chemical free.
Water
is a chemical. Bees are made up of chemicals. You really need to
specify what you mean. Do you mean only natural products? There are
natural products that are really nasty. Botulism toxin is among the most
toxic substances known. I had friends who would put tobacco leaves in
their smoker to kill mites - totally natural. But they wouldn’t use
Apiguard because it was man-made. Except Apiguard is thymol, one of the
oils found in the herb thyme. I’ll guarantee you that toxicity of all the
crud in tobacco leaves far exceeds the that of thymol.
Clarifying
what you mean might head off any misunderstandings too. If there are
practices that are natural, but you don’t find kind to your bees, setting down
guidelines might let everyone know exactly what is expected in the “kind to your
bees beeyard”.
Lanette
Fee
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Message----- From: Leslie DiLorenzo Sent: Feb
26, 2012 8:53 AM To: nsadler AT mindspring.com, klparmley AT gmail.com,
marty AT justbeenc.com, lewis AT hivebody.com Cc: ocba AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [ocba] A Modest Proposal
Please add my email address to the list as well.
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 07:14:16 -0500 From: nsadler AT mindspring.com To:
klparmley AT gmail.com; marty AT justbeenc.com; lewis AT hivebody.com CC:
ocba AT lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [ocba] A Modest
Proposal
I have had
chemical-free bees at Whitted Bowers Farm for several years. I would love to
be a part of this group. Please put my email address on the list. I am so glad
that this group is forming.
Natalie
Sadler
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Message----- From: Kitty Cunningham Sent: Feb 25, 2012 11:08 PM
To: Marty Hanks , Lewis Cauble Cc: Orange County Bees Subject:
Re: [ocba] A Modest Proposal
Well, that was silly. I sent an invitation to the Group , but my
Yahoo address isn’t a member.
If you haven’t already indicated that you are interested, today, shoot
me an email and I’ll get you connected.
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ocba] A Modest Proposal
Actually, I had killed the group because I was feeling lonely in it all
by myself. I have, however, recreated it so we have a place to plan
without cluttering up the OCBA list.
Once there is someone involved besides me, I will very happily share
administrative tools.
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [ocba] A Modest Proposal
Thanks Lewis and Hi Everyone,
I agree...its been a busy few days on the OCBA for sure. I am very
happy to see the response to this offer in less than one day. I know of at
least three more people who haven't even chimed in yet.
To all that are interested: I would like to invite you
over to our mini farm for the first meeting to discuss this further and make
a plan about what the groups interests are and frame up a "phase one" plan
that we can take to the next OCBA meeting. I have been talking w/ Kitty
& Chuck and others about this and she has started a yahoo group to
invite others in the extended community. So like Lewis said...lets make it
happen.
I will call & confirm w/ the the other folks that I was already in
talks with prior to this offer and send out a few dates so we all can
compare schedules.
Sound Good? -- Let me know if you have any other
ideas.
Cheers,
Marty Hanks
113 Wolf's Trail
Chapel Hill, NC
27516
H-969-4347
C-260-6032
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Lewis Cauble
<lewis AT hivebody.com> wrote:
Initial response to the chemical free
initiative has been very good. Now it is up to the chemical free
folks to organize, develop a plan, and make it happen.
Lewis
On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Lewis Cauble wrote:
Hello Beekeepers,
I would like to make a proposal that OCBA set up a chemical free
beekeeping group to teach and demonstrate chemical free methods.
I'd like for us to give our chemical free group a grant of $500 to
purchase equipment, queens, bring in speakers, or whatever they need for
this thing to grow legs. At the very minimum, I would like for
OCBA to have a chemical free demonstration yard managed by the chemical
free folks that would be used to teach and demonstrate these
methods.
The bee yard could be any where that the group chooses. I
went by Whitted Bowers yesterday and spoke with Rob
Bowers. He is willing to host the chemical free bee yard. I
have been keeping bees there alongside Natalie Sadler for several years
now so we already have a built in relationship with him. The
downside is that it is in N. Orange and perhaps not very convenient for
all. The up side is that his 52 acre farm is certified organic and
certified biodynamic.
I've already run this rough idea past the exec committee and it
certainly has their approval. Now I would like for our chemical
free folks to organize and decide if this is something that they would
like to do. From there we can work on the details.
Cheers,
Lewis
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