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  • From: Jen and Derek Campbell <jenanddereksfarm AT gmail.com>
  • To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Market-farming] When to seed after liming
  • Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 07:42:06 -0300

Hi all, 

thanks for everyone for their responses.  My soil test indicated the need for lime and based on expert recommendation i got 2tonne/acre applied.  Our pH is pretty low as our farm was a potato farm for years which requires a much lower pH than other vegetables. 

I really enjoy this list and thought I would send a quick e-mail off to everyone as I find the answers on these lists to be most helpful. 

Maybe my term "clueless" was rather ill used.  I guess I was just looking for others opinions on when one should plant after incorporation.  I have only spread lime in the fall before and had heard from different opinions about waiting 1-2 weeks before seeding.  I ideally would have spread it in the fall to give it more time to work but the rain came and the field got too wet to drive on so it had to wait till the spring.  Getting advice from knowledgeable organic growers here quickly is rather hard as everyone is super busy and that is why I thought I would use this list for quick feedback.  I was a bit taken back by a few of the answers but that's ok.  I do my best and take advice where I can get it.  Thanks again and happy planting. 

Jen

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:43 PM, <clearviewfarm AT bluefrog.com> wrote:
Bill,

I went to Cornell's website for clarification precisely because I wasn't really up on the "standard practice".  Although I have been farming for thirty some years, I haven't had to  apply lime that often and figured I had better go back and "brush up" before commenting.  Perhaps some people have soils that require frequent liming and know the practice like the back of their hand, but I am not one of them.  That said, no one should be afraid to ask questions.  There have been times where I asked a question and no one replied, much to my dismay.  Perhaps, that is because no one knew an answer or they thought I was too dumb to figure it out for myself.

Kurt Forman

Clearview Farm
Palmyra, NY 14522

--- wshoemak AT illinois.edu wrote:

From: "William H Shoemaker" <wshoemak AT illinois.edu>
To: "'Market Farming'" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] When to seed after liming
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 07:07:42 -0500

Actually, it isn’t surprising that people spread lime without knowing all the implications. First, there aren’t many implications. It is just finely ground limestone (CaCO3) that adjusts pH, minimally. Really, it’s a pretty benign practice. So if they are asking questions about basic agricultural methods, that’s good. That’s what this list is for, isn’t it?

 

Second, I find most farmers really only do what is “standard practice”, without knowing all the ramifications of everything they do. Most just take the advice of someone they trust. That’s true of both conventional and organic farmers. For many, the soil testing service is one of those “someone they trust”. Frankly, there’s a reason why lime is one of the most common soil amendments. Its benefits far outweigh any risks. Are there any risks of applying normal and usual rates of lime when a soil testing service recommends it? So if someone asks about potential risks, its okay, isn’t it? Is there anyone out there who was never a beginner, who always knew how to do things right all the time? I hope this list won’t close the door on someone who asks fundamental questions.

 

Bill

William H. Shoemaker

Sr. Research Specialist, Food Crops

University of Illinois - Crop Sciences

St Charles Horticulture Research Center

535 Randall Road, St Charles, IL, 60174

630-584-7254, FAX-584-4610

wshoemak AT illinois.edu


From: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Richard Stewart


Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:46 PM
To: Market Farming
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] When to seed after liming

 

If you are clueless about lime why did you spread it?

 

Just curious.  I am not trying to be super critical or anything I just find it hard to believe that you would spread lime without knowing.  That is sort of important.  I think you should know before purchasing said amendment how to work it our if it can be worked post amendments.

 

I hope I am not the only one wondering about this.

 

Richard Stewart

Carriage House Farm

North Bend, Ohio

 

An Ohio Century Farm Est. 1855

 

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