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  • From: "Jeffrey B. Gibson" <jgibson000 AT comcast.net>
  • To: Kata Markon <gmark AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [GMark] [Synoptic-L] parables in Mk. 3:23-27?
  • Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:41:01 -0500



Norman Goos wrote:

> Two issues need to be thought out here. The first is what corpus we use for
> comparison. If Mark, so be it, but then the rest of the extent literature
> becomes meaningless for the discussion here. Two there are six occurrences
> of the word in Mark. 8:23 is direct address, and so I would consider this
> definite by default. All the others, except the two in 3:23 are articular.
> I'm not so sure the jump is as big as you suppose to see 3:23 as anaphoric
> and therefore not needing the article to be definite. France (NIGTC) does
> not see the possibility of its anarthrousness to be of sufficient weight to
> consider it. Neither do Mann (ABC) or Cranfield )CBC). Gould (ICC)
> mentions it but sees no change inn meaning in the form, seeing it as still
> definite. It would seem that the burden of proof would be on Jeffrey to
> show substantial evidence that the anarthrousness leads toward
> non-definiteness.

I think you are begging the question and going against syntactical evidence in
your claim that SATANAS in 8:31 is definite. Is it really the case that it
is
part of Mark's style to drop the article in direct address when the article is
normally part of a proper name? And is it really the case that Jesus is
calling
Peter THE devil, rather than an adversary. Does Satan really think the things
of men?

But leaving that aside, the question that needs to be answered is: If Mark
wanted the SATANAS of 3:23 to be seen as proper name, why didn't he use the
article there?

And if we do wish to refer to NT usage, what actually is the data? Where is
anarthrous SATANAS used as a proper name?

However, my real question has to do not with what SATANAS means in 3:23, but
whether or not there are, as Kelly claims, five separate parables/comparisons
in Mk. 3:23-27.

Does anyone have any answers for that?

Jeffrey

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