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  • From: drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>
  • To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music
  • Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:33:07 -0400

On Thursday 06 April 2006 10:06 am, Gary (AUDN) wrote:
> Yes I kindof agree.
>
> Although I think your scenario is definitely feasible, I'm not sure how
> many artists are realistically going to get their "big break" this way -
> especially with the state of commercial radio.
>
>
>
> In the UK at least, and I'm sure in the USA too, the commercial radio
> stations pay a lot of money on a "blanket music license" which gives them
> an absolutely huge selection of artists already.
>
> To play an artist who is not part of this system, and possibly incur
> additional royalty fees is not particularly likely. It is more likely the
> discovered artist would get a contract with a standard record label and
> become "part of the system".
>
>
>
> If I wanted to start an internet radio station in the UK and use "standard
> music", then my license fees, per year, if I had only 100 regular
> listeners, work out at around 1000 GBP (1700 USD)!!! (I would need to make
> 3000 GBP from these 100 listeners just to break even).
>
> See http://www.mediauk.com/article/1 for more info if you are interested.
>
>
>
> Basically, the dominant licensing companies currently favour the large
> corporations and (certainly in the UK) it has made it financially unviable
> for small companies to even run small internet radio stations or podcasts.
>
>
>
> There is a huge opportunity for artists and independent/small internet
> radio stations to make a stand against this "manufactured" industry - and
> make money whilst doing it.
>
>
>
> However after some discussion on here, I do not think the Creative Commons
> licenses as they are currently structured will be the savior. The greatest
> selection of music tracks is available NC only.
>
> I think the likely next step would be for someone to create a cheaper music
> licensing system for smaller companies, using artists who are currently
> releasing tracks through CC. This way, artists will be paid modestly and
> "internet radio" companies can exist!
>
> I think we need to take a pragmatic approach here. Even the well respected
> "Radio Paradise" is a for-profit venture.
>
>
>
> I guess I am basically saying that the music licensing companies have
> monopolised the market. They favour the large companies because it keeps
> them dominant.
>
> I believe there is a need for competitive licensing organization(s) which
> favours the small companies, and with this mechanism in place, internet
> radio can flourish and take the artists with them.

Or just license your stuff BY or BY-SA and then the small broadcasters can
use
your work without paying a fee. If they make you famous, find a way to make
something from your fame.
>
> >Greg wrote:
> >
> >Music Mike records some tracks. He licenses one of them
> >
> >CC-BY-NC-ND. Fans pass the track around via email and their
> >
> >webpages, and it becomes viral. It eventually comes to the
> >
> >attention of Radio Rick who is a DJ and who wants to play
> >
> >the song on their commercial station. If the work is CC-BY,
> >
> >with a URL that points to license information and contact
> >
> >information, then Rick can get ahold of Mike and ask him if
> >
> >he'd be willing to allow him to play the song over commercial
> >
> >airspace.
> >
> >
> >
> >You don't need this license to allow people to broadcast
> >
> >your music for indirect commercial profit. The lack of the
> >
> >license is not the gating factor. The gating factor is getting
> >
> >a work that's viral enough that some commercial place wants
> >
> >to play it. And if they want to play it, and you licensed
> >
> >it CC-BY-NC-ND, they should be able to click through to your
> >
> >attribution URL, get your contact information, and email you
> >
> >for permission to broadcast your work without paying you,
> >
> >if that's what you're willing ot allow them to do.
> >
> >
> >
> >Some things don't get solved by a license because the lack of
> >
> >the license is not the cause of the problem. This is one of
> >
> >those situations.

all the best,

drew
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