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  • From: Ben <chpapa AT gmail.com>
  • To: "Chong Chan-yau" <chanyau AT hku.hk>
  • Cc: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org, David Plott <davidplott AT gmail.com>, ying chan <yychan AT hku.hk>
  • Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Fwd: CC licence
  • Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:26:58 +0800

Hi all,

Finally -- It is holiday and I've some spare time now.. :-) I've
reorganized the cchk.wetpaint.com wiki site a bit and a new branch of
wiki page "Launch Plan" was created.

The new wiki page includes different sub-pages which are the
components we need to plan for the CC-HK launch inspired by Rebecca's
email. Please feel free to add / remove page, and start the discussion
and planning.

http://cchk.wetpaint.com/page/Launch+Plan

For now please feel free to discuss on mail thread and list as much
idea as possible in wiki. :-)

To start with, I would like to ask these two questions which seems to
have quite a lot of discussion last Tue night, but we didn't have
enough time....

1. What are the core message at CC-HK launch? Do we want a specific
one or a "neutral" one? etc...

2. In what form do we want the future CC-HK organization in? What is
the scale? What is the purpose of this organization? Do we want it
actively promote CC in Hong Kong or a supporting organization for
other CC related projects in HK?

Ben

On Dec 22, 2007 11:10 PM, Chong Chan-yau <chanyau AT hku.hk> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Rebecca,
> I missed a lot for not being able to join you guys.
> Thank you for drawing up a rather comprehensive list.
> Right now, I want to add one point: Make the CC-HK website accessible to
> people with visual handicap.
> There's an accessible standard at www.w3c.org/wai . PLs refer to anyone who
> will design the website.
> Chan Yau
>
> ________________________________
> From: cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Rebecca MacKinnon
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 6:04 PM
> To: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Cc: David Plott; ying chan
> Subject: [Cc-hk] Fwd: CC licence
>
>
>
> Hi everybody, please see the note below which Prof. Jing Wang of MIT asked
> me to forward to the list.
>
>
> As promised, a few notes about our meeting on Tuesday night:
>
>
> We decided to take advantage of the presence of Hal Abelson of MIT, who
> helped found CC along with Larry Lessig, plus members of the CC China
> Mainland team Wang Jing and Wang Chunyan. All were in town to attend the
> excellent conference on IT and Social Responsibility organized by Jack Qiu
> of CUHK. Charles and Oiwan enriched the gathering with their presences at
> different points. Prof's Wang and Wang gave great presentations about what
> CC China mainland is doing. Maybe we can see whether they might be
> interested in sharing them with this list at some point.
>
>
> We decided to organize a somewhat impromptu and informal gathering on
> Tuesday night after the conference dinner for whoever was able to make it.
>
>
> Everybody is thrilled that a draft of the CC-HK license will be available
> for public comment within the coming month.
>
>
> We very much hope that we will be able to launch CC-HK - the licenses and
> the official CC-HK organization - by mid-June at the latest. I know that
> many of you can't wait to get started with CC-licensed projects and
> products.
>
>
> Before the launch there is a list of things we need to do:
>
>
> - Decide what activities we want to organize around the launch
> - Draw up a budget for the launch (see note below from Prof. Wang about the
> HKD cost of the China Mainland launch)
> - Draw up a budget for an ongoing CC-HK organization, which for the time
> being would be administered by the Journalism & Media Studies Center at HKU.
> - Devise a fund-raising strategy so that the launch can happen the way we
> want it to.
> - Determine what "message" we want to convey with the CC-HK launch - what is
> the unique "CC-HK brand" (Suggested components of our core message: CC-HK
> will help promote Hong Kong's innovation, creativity, egalitarian education,
> cultural diversity, and civic participation.)
> - Decide who are our target communities who will benefit most from CC; then
> determine an outreach strategy for those communities (Several people
> stressed the need to make sure we involve people from HK's less economically
> advantaged communities from the very start. Ben will be working with the
> rest of you to make sure our launch and our organization generally are as
> inclusive as possible. That probably means holding a lot of meetings and
> activities in Cantonese and not all in English, among other things.)
> -- Target several HK NGO's, arts groups, educational institutions (for any
> age group), businesses, etc., who would like to launch a project, product,
> service, exhibition, or performance, etc. in conjunction with the CC-HK
> launch.
> - Determine which organizations, institutions, and businesses in HK will be
> core CC-HK supporters and start building relationships for long-term
> collaboration. Get these groups heavily involved with the launch, ask them
> to help host activities related to the launch, and also ask them for core
> support in terms of promotion and maybe even funding where appropriate.
>
>
> Please add anything that I left out which should be on the list.
>
>
> Finally we are in a position to hold a meeting where we can get a lot of
> work done on a concrete action plan. We should hold a meeting in January.
> Ben Cheng will take charge of organizing the place and time.
>
>
> If a few people would like to start organizing ideas and agenda items on the
> Wiki in advance, that would be really fabulous. (http://cchk.wetpaint.com/)
> It's much easier to keep track of ideas on a wiki than in e-mail threads, I
> find. The energetic Henry Oh has agreed to volunteer some time helping us
> out as well. So maybe Henry can start collecting ideas from around the
> community in coordination with Ben and others?
>
>
> I'm going to be away for the next week and may be slow to respond to
> emails... but please don't let that stop you from discussing! Ben will be
> around and will start working on a time for the next meeting as soon as he
> gets a chance with lots of year-end projects to wrap up.
>
>
> Happy holidays everybody!
>
>
> Rebecca
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
>
>
> From: jing wang <jinwang8882000 AT yahoo.com>
> To: Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon AT gmail.com>; Haggen So
> <haggen_so AT yahoo.com>
> Cc: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:51:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] CC licence
>
>
>
> Dear Rebecca, Jack, Charles, Peter, Henry et al,
>
> It was a great pleasure for me to meet you and the other cc Hong Kong
> volunteers two nights ago.
> I was very impressed with the spirit and enthusiasm of your group!
> To correct myself, the CC China Mainland launch event did cost 200,000
> (Peter was right), not 20,000.
> Good luck with your launch plan.
>
> Cheers and best wishes, Jing
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon AT gmail.com>
> To: Haggen So <haggen_so AT yahoo.com>
> Cc: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:26:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] CC licence
>
> Yes Haggen we are nearing the point where hopefully we can fix a date for
> the launch. Before we do so I need to consult with CC International but it
> should be soon. Very good suggestion to find out more about the Taiwan CC
> launch and how it was organized.
>
>
> We had a very useful meeting last night with good advice from MIT's Hal
> Abelson, one of the founders of CC along with Larry Lessig.
> I will write up some notes with suggestions for next steps and send to this
> list by the end of this week.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Rebecca
>
>
>
> On Dec 19, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Haggen So wrote:
>
>
> Dear Yahong and all,
>
>
> It is great to hear about the progress made by you and the legal team.
> Your effort is very much appreciated.
>
>
> Does it mean there will be a local charter of CC in HK soon? Should we
> plan for the official launch? Maybe we can refer to the list of public
> events held in Taiwan CC
> http://creativecommons.org.tw/static/about/material The video of the
> official launch of CC Taiwan in 2004 can be found at the bottom (WMV
> 600MB).
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Haggen
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Li Yahong wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Rebecca and all,
>
>
> To keep you updated, we had submitted our first draft of CC licence on Dec.
> 5, and then submitted an annotated version on Dec. 14, to CC International.
> We had already received questions, suggestions and comments from Catharina
> and will work on them. Although currently under the pressure of marking
> heavy loads of exam scripts, Alice and I (with Jerry and Rob) will try to
> get the licence released to public prior to New Year, if not Christmas, as a
> holiday present to the ever patient and supportive HK CC community.
>
>
> Best wishes for a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
>
>
> Yahong
> on behalf of the legal team
>
>
>
>
> Dr. Yahong Li
> Associate Professor
> Faculty of Law
> The University of Hong Kong
> _______________________________________________
> Cc-hk mailing list
> Cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-hkJing Wang, Head, FL&L
> Chair, MIT Critical Policy Studies of China
> Chair, Advisory Board, CC China Mainland
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rebecca MacKinnon
> Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
> University of Hong Kong (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
> E-mail: rmack AT hku.hk | Tel: +852-2219-4005
> Blog: RConversation.com
> Co-founder: GlobalVoicesOnline.org
> "The world is talking. Are you listening?"
>
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> Rebecca MacKinnon
> Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
> University of Hong Kong (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
> E-mail: rmack AT hku.hk | Tel: +852-2219-4005
> Blog: RConversation.com
> Co-founder: GlobalVoicesOnline.org
> "The world is talking. Are you listening?"
>
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