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  • From: "Ishnian" <ishinan AT comcast.net>
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  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] baal
  • Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 21:09:10 -0500

Babel: The Akkadian Bab-ilu means "gate of God". a loan translation from an
earlier Sumerian term, Ka-dingir. Trilateral root of bAb (gate or door)+ Il
, The Semitic diety In the Canaanite religion, El or Il was the supreme
god, the father of humankind and all creatures and the husband of the goddess
Asherah as recorded in the clay tablets of Ugarit. BAb has medial alif.

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Ba`l : a trilateral root with a medial letter `ayn. NO relation to bAb. Ba`l
has several meanings and derivatives in various Semitic languages besides
Hebrew, ( i.e. Ugaritic, Arabic, etc.)

These are the following:

1) The name of many deities of the Semitic peoples. 2) He became a husband,
a lord over him, A lord, a master, an owner, or a possessor. A chief, a
ruler, a person of authority. 3) He became fixed in his place like as do
palm trees not knowing what to do, hence he became confounded and perplexed.
( no relation to Babel). 4) The playing and toying together of a man with
his wife, he lay with her. 5) A weight or a burden, A tax or impost that is
given for watering of palm trees. 6) Lacking strength or power, 7) does not
dress well. 8) Palm trees watered by rain, and finally 9) elevated land.

Best regards,

Ishinan Ishibashi
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----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Hardy
Sent: 08/07/12 09:43 PM
To: Isaac Fried
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] baal

I am not convinced that the first B in BBL(בבל) is not a prefix added to
בל. thus it would be "In Anxiety" or in Confusion and בעל might mean in
elevating (self,or what should not be) is confusion.

----- Original Message -----
From: Isaac Fried
Sent: 08/07/12 08:45 PM
To: Philip Hardy
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] baal

What is Bel? It is related (in Hebrew everything is interrelated) to the
בול עץ BUL EC, 'block of wood', (not that the BAAL is made of a block of
wood) of Is. 44:19. As to BABEL, as I have said before, a name need not be a
word, and its parsing may be open to more than one interpretation. It is
possibly related to TEL ABIYB of Ez. 3:15. The partition BABELºB-EL, with BAB
(recall the BAB-AT AYIN of Zec. 2:12) rendered 'door', so as to make BAB-EL =
'god's door', is cute.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Aug 7, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Philip Hardy wrote:
Is word Baal related to Babel or Bel?
Philip Hardy

----- Original Message -----
From: Isaac Fried
Sent: 08/07/12 03:33 PM
To: Nir cohen - Prof. Mat.
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] baal

In what sense is BAAL ( the Greek Appolo?) a "deity"? Is he "the master of
the universe"? Isaac Fried, Boston University On Aug 7, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Nir
cohen - Prof. Mat. wrote: > as to "baal" the deity
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