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  • From: Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
  • To: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Bethsaida
  • Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:48:55 +0200

Karl,

Perhaps it went the other way: CYD first meant "hunting" (not as a sport but as a way of providing food), and then the noun Cayyid took on the general meaning of "provisions".

Yigal Levin

----- Original Message ----- From: "K Randolph" <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
To: "b-hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Bethsaida



Yigal:

If it truly is TsYD the word meant in Beth-saida, I see the possibility that
it started as a place preparing food for the fishermen and other boatmen.
Possibly a family business. Then the place grew over time as other fishing
related business located there.

The word has as its basic root the meaning of getting provisions, such as
for a journey. It is used that way in Joshua 9. See also Nehemiah 13:15.
These stories also shows that hunting was not a sport, rather a way of
getting provisions.

Karl W. Randolph.

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>wrote:

It is often assumed that Beth-saida means "House of the hunters", with the
form being Aramaic rather than Hebrew. Assuming the site to be on or near
the Sea of Galilee, the "hunters" would actually be fishermen. "Sidon", the
well-know Pheonician port, would be dirived from the same word.

Rami Arav, who for years has been excavating a major site just north of the
Sea of Galilee which he identifies as Bethsaida, has also suggested that
the
"Ziddim Zer" (the Z here stands for Sade, as in Beth-saida and in Sidon)
mentioned in Josh 19:35 in the inheretance of Naphtali, is the Iron Age
form
of the same name, perhaps originally "Hacayyadim".

Yigal Levin
----- Original Message -----
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To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:39 AM
Subject: [b-hebrew] Bethsaida


>
> BHaverim --
>
> What does the name "Bethsaida" mean? "Beth," obviously, means > "house."
> But
> what about the "Saida"? I'm not even sure what the Hebrew root word
here
> might be. One commentary I have says it means "House of Provisioning"
> (Austin
> Farrer) and another says "House of Fishermen" (John Donahue & Daniel
> Harrington) -- and all the rest that I have say nothing about the
meaning
> of the name
> at all.
>
> I'd be glad to hear what you think. (I ask this on the B-Hebrew list,
> even
> though "Bethsaida" appears only in the Greek, because it's obvious a
> Hebrew
> name. Hope this isn't a problem.)
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> John
>
>
>
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