Typical Girls: Women in Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music (Circa 1975-1980s)

[Helen McCookerybook <helen_mccookerybook AT yahoo.co.uk>]

Thank you Denah- your book looks really interesting and it's going on my must-have list!

People are shocked when they hear how violent the British punk scene was but it wasn't any different in other British subcultures at the time (and there were a lot of them!).

The difference was that women were included in the violence as well as the music, and perhaps that so many of us 'lived to tell the tale' with a degree of honesty as often these experiences are covered up, although not forgotten.

Helen

--- On Wed, 24/10/12, denah johnston <denahjohnston AT gmail.com> wrote:

From: denah johnston <denahjohnston AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] The Lost Women of Rock Music: Female Musicians of the Punk Era
To: "Typical Girls: Women in Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music (Circa 1975-1980s)" <typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Wednesday, 24 October, 2012, 17:39

Helen, I wanted to jump in and thank you for your wonderful work - it helped inform my writing of No Future Now: A Nomadology of Resistance and Subversion.

I also found it interesting that the violence against women isn't mentioned or addressed more when the topic is discussed. Usually there is a casual comment made about the nearly ideal gender equality in the scene. Of course later in Riot Grrrl we see the developing of another wave that was largely in reaction to the exclusion of and violence against women.

All the best!

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:Denah A. Johnston

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Helen McCookerybook <helen_mccookerybook AT yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

That's right Dan, I am! :)

--- On Tue, 23/10/12, dan bailey <dpbailey AT att.net> wrote:

From: dan bailey <dpbailey AT att.net>
Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] The Lost Women of Rock Music: Female Musicians of the Punk Era

To: "Typical Girls: Women in Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music (Circa 1975-1980s)" <typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org>

Date: Tuesday, 23 October, 2012, 19:39

Yep. The author is a listmember. Or was. (I've been distracted of late.)

 

Dan

From: Stella <stellapace7 AT gmail.com>
To: Typical Girls: Women in Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music (Circa 1975-1980s) <typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 1:01 PM
Subject: [TypicalGirls] The Lost Women of Rock Music: Female Musicians of the Punk Era

Hey guyz,

    This book looks awesome... 

The Lost Women of Rock Music: Female Musicians of the Punk Era 

http://www.amazon.com/The-Lost-Women-Rock-Music/dp/1845539575/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350721362&sr=8-1&keywords=women+punk+music

"In the late 1970s and early 1980s a new phenomenon emerged in UK popular music – female guitarists, bass-players, keyboard-players and drummers began playing in bands. Before this time, women’s presence in rock bands, with a few notable exceptions, had always been as vocalists. This sudden influx of female musicians into the male domain of rock music was brought about by the enabling ethic of punk rock (“anybody can do it!”) and by the impact of the Sex Discrimination Act. With the demise of the punk scene, interest in these musicians evaporated and other priorities became important to music audiences. This book investigates the social and commercial reasons why these women became lost from the rock music record, and rewrites this period of popular music history.

In addition to a wealth of original interview material with key protagonists, including the late John Peel, Geoff Travis, The Raincoats and Poison Girls, this new edition has been updated to include interviews with members of Birmingham-based band The Au Pairs, Leeds-based band Delta 5 and Viv Albertine of The Slits. Lucy Whitman (aka Lucy Toothpaste), who started the fanzine Jolt and later wrote for Spare Rib, also provides enlightening words on the relationship between female punk band members and feminism. The author also draws on her own experience as bass-player in a punk band." - (from the Amazon page)

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