Typical Girls: Women in Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music (Circa 1975-1980s)

[lsmith <yelmo2000 AT yahoo.com>]

Wow. Interesting. Thanks for sending this along.
I don't think I'd heard of the The Quietus, I'll have to explore it.
But I have to say the "Song from Under the Floorboards" video (embedded in 
the article) is pretty amazing. Made me see/hear the song in a new way from 
the way the music is performed live, and Devoto's intensity. In fact, I never 
really knew the lyrics, I guess in part because I couldn't just look them up 
on the Internet, and that gave me even more respect for the song/band.
- Lani

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"I'm only craving fewer pieces of paper, fewer words in my letters and fewer 
letters in my words, in order to say what I gotta say." 
- Sylvester Stewart/Sly Stone


--- On Wed, 2/25/09, WWWhatsup <joly AT punkcast.com> wrote:

> From: WWWhatsup <joly AT punkcast.com>
> Subject: [TypicalGirls] "It were all fields round here in the post punk 
> days!"
> To: "Typical Girls" <typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:08 PM
> [I tried to get someone to vid the Totally Wired thing at
> the Roundhouse but 
> failed - Simon also tells me he left his audio recorder at
> home :) - there's
> a short report at the link below : Ana da Silva joined the
> pane - Viv Albertine
> mocked the audience and smirked at Colin Newman etc, plus
> an earlier chat
> with Quietus ed. John Doran
> 
> 
> http://thequietus.com/articles/01163-simon-reynolds-in-conversation-talking-totally-wired
> 
> [excerpt]
> 
> JD: One of the quotes that rang clearest to me was Green
> Gartside
> talking about taping John Peel. ("I would tape the
> Peel shows
> on a Saturday and for want of anything else to do, I would
> listen to that tape every night or day until the following
> weekend. And the thing that stayed with you, I found, was
> the
> challenging stuff. The music you found most difficult on
> the
> Sunday by the next weekend had become your
> favourite.") I've
> been thinking about this a lot recently and as someone who
> struggles by as a music writer I literally do occasionally
> have sleepless nights worrying about some aspects of the
> music
> industry and where the whole thing is going. And the whole
> cultural strip mining effects of unabated peer to peer file
> sharing and the manic catalogue reissue programmes even
> though
> the entire market is obviously saturated in music and
> product.
> Could we ever have a movement like post punk ever again?
> Would
> a young musician ever have the cultural space occurring
> that
> people like Green Gartside had to sit round and think about
> things like they did?
> 
> SR: "It doesn't seem like it. It seems like
> we've gone into
> this irreversible state of - to use the word you brought up
> -
> saturation; which is a word that applies on so many levels.
> Market saturation, memory saturation, time saturation and
> the
> way the culture and technology is going we seem to have
> bizarre state of affairs where things are going so fast
> that
> we're at a standstill. We've got so many
> distractions that
> we're bored at the same time. But it's different to
> the
> boredom I felt as a kid which was this yawning gulf of
> empty
> time and you just had to fill it with something and it
> might
> be mischief or you might drift into the dream world of
> music
> of the few records that you could own at that time. I feel
> that music now has become a paradise that's become a
> hell. I
> have so many records mainly because I've been
> collecting for
> years and because I've been sent things and perhaps I
> have
> more than the average person but the thing is now anyone
> can
> be in the situation I'm in. Any young person can
> immediately
> drown themselves in virtually, absolutely everything. And
> now
> there might be something that you're sneakily looking
> for on
> the net [laughs] that you might not be able to get hold of
> but
> virtually everything that has ever been recorded is out
> there.
> And I don't know what kind of consciousness or creative
> consciousness can survive that kind of inundation. It feels
> almost like a cultural catastrophe. I mean, obviously,
> sometimes it's great if I can, say, find some really
> obscure
> BBC Radiophonic thing that barely came out at the time but
> is
> up there on the web. But at the same time it seems to have
> gone wrong somehow. It's like getting everything you
> wished
> for as a music fan and it turning out to be a terrible
> nightmare. I don't know, what do you think?"
> 
> JD: I think so, yeah. I'm really wary on one hand of
> coming across
> like the narrator of a Hovis ad.
> 
> SR: "It were all fields round here in the post punk
> days!"
> 
> 
> Joly MacFie 
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