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- From: Dina Hornreich <dinahornreich AT earthlink.net>
- To: typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: [TypicalGirls] Fw: [girlgroup] Re: women in punk
- Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 06:20:42 -0700 (PDT)
Someone naively posted to girl group about her perceptions of a "dearth" of female artists in old school NYC punk. (I tried to get her to bring up the discussion here, but I don't believe she joined -- B: are you out there lurking somewhere?) While she admitted later on that this was a poor choice of wording, I responded quite critically anyhow. What can I say? I'm bad.
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Subject: [girlgroup] Re: women in punk
wrote:
> I think all the Typical Girls torchbearers of punk and postpunk
like X Ray
> Spex, The Slits, Raincoats, Delta 5, Lilliput, etc. etc. totally
redefined
> everything from the music down to presentation and ideas
about women in
> rock, and yes, it's interesting that this all happened in the UK
but not
> here. But then on this side there were The Bush Tetras and
Pylon who
> followed in that model too.
>
>
There were people-from Flaming Youth, the all-girl hard rock
band (only one in town at the time- any others were doing
pseudo funk or pseudo worse on a pre-disco gay bar circuit--ok
maybe we were doing psuedo hard rock-but we didn't know any
better) I was in during the pre-CBGBs era to the Stimulators whot
grew out of it-- whose idea of punk (and we loved and covered it)
was Iggy before Debbie Harry transformed (via serving
chickpeas to the Factory crowd @ Max's) herself from folkie to
what you now recognize, judging by this thread, as the "face" of
punk... but maybe one of the nice things about that era was that it
was not necessary to categorize it all... that probably had more to
do with the statistic-lovers who 'd spent most of life before
growing out their crew cuts & inhaling a puff or two debating
batting averages that they (being even less adept at pushing
pencils than coordinating any two given limbs in the service of
any elegant, much less useful, activity) could only dream about...
in other words, the geeks who morphed into a professional
league of their own-- rock critics.
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- [TypicalGirls] Fw: [girlgroup] Re: women in punk, Dina Hornreich, 05/20/2004
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