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[Juan Carlos Torres <carlosdgtorres AT gmail.com>]

> 1. add yourself to group kde4
> 2, telinit enable kdm4
> 3. edit /etc/sysconfig/facilities and make kdm4 the default default
> display_manager
>
> telinit switch 3
> telinit switch 5
>
>
> you should now get the kde4 login screen with a yellow tinge.
> When you login, your $KDEHOME directory will now be .kde4, which keeps
> everything separate.
>
> See /etc/profile.d/kde4.sh for more details.
>
> The only problem that I have at present is that any use of JavaScript
> crashes Konqueror, so I have disable this.

Treeve, you're the man! Thanks for the instructions. It works great.

I just have a few comments/ask a few clarifications. So running a full KDE 4 
session depends on whether the user is a member of the kde4 group? I just 
noticed that it sets the $KDEHOME and other env vars to the KDE 4. 

This works great if that user will only be running a full KDE4 session and 
wants to run KDE 3 apps. The KDE 3 apps will also use $HOME/.kde4 as the 
$KDEHOME. Unfortunately, that same user won't be able to log into a KDE 3 
session, unless he removes himself from the kde4 group. But even then, the 
changes he made or new data he got from running KDE 3 apps in the KDE 4 
session won't be transferrable, because in a KDE 3 session, the KDE 3 apps 
will be using $HOME/.kde as their $KDEHOME.

I guess in the present setup, there's no way to conveniently/easily have two 
KDE sessions for each user, with separate $KDEHOME's for KDE 3 and KDE 4 
apps, without patching kdelibs the way Debian does (which I heard they got 
from SUSE). Not really complaining here. I'm happy enough that there's a kde4 
group that does these things. I guess I'll just implement some sort of 
symlink gymnastics to pull off my desired effect.

Oh, it seems that you don't need to use kdm4 to log into a KDE 4 session, as 
long as the user is a member of the kde4 group, because the kde.desktop file 
just contains "startkde", with no path.

And I hate to nitpick after such long e-mails, but could kdebase-workspace4 
be 
renamed to kdebase4-workspace? just to be consistent with kdebase4 and 
kdebase4-runtime. :D

Again, thanks for your work for the KDE spells. Very much appreciated. :)