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  • From: Jeremy Blosser <jblosser-smgl AT firinn.org>
  • To: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] rearranging ibiblio and getting mirroring going
  • Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:40:14 -0500

On Mar 20, Eric Sandall [eric AT sandall.us] wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 March 2007 14:57:14 Jeremy Blosser wrote:
> > On Mar 20, Eric Sandall [eric AT sandall.us] wrote:
> > > On Saturday 17 March 2007 14:13:49 Jeremy Blosser wrote:
> <snip>
> > > > iso/
> > >
> > > As long as we leave the iso -> cauldron/iso symlink up for
> > > download.sourcemage.org, this should be fine, but I don't think it'd be
> > > a
> > > good idea to 'hide' the ISO directory under a name which people new to
> > > SMGL won't understand. Most will understand "iso" as where to get our
> > > installer, but "cauldron"?
> >
> > That's why I listed the "with symlinks" version too. All the symlinks
> > from
> > the old locations are there (the rearranging has been done since Sunday),
> > I
> > just listed the real directories without symlinks as where things "really"
> > are.
>
> I know, but to me it sounded as though the symlinks are temporary. I am
> saying that the symlinks, at least for "iso", should stay, the others
> should be easily findable under their new locations.

I don't expect them to be temporary, but even if the links go away please
keep in mind these are all apache rewrites anyway.
download.sourcemage.org/iso/ will already point directly to wherever the
actual ISO images are on the mirror that gets selected; the URL published
doesn't necessarily exist in direct fs-space anywhere. If indexing becomes
a problem that's better handled with HTML pages on the www site than
telling people to browse randomly around the mirror sites themselves.

> <snip>
> > > > misc/
> > > > projects/
> > >
> > > Perhaps drop the "misc" and have "projects" at the top, since by
> > > definition they'd be "projects other than the already listed".
> >
> > There are misc things that we have reason to make available there but
> > aren't projects we intend to release for people to use. We just don't
> > have
> > any up there yet.
>
> Should we have misc/ and projects/ separate then? Mostly nitpicking on this
> one, not so important. ;) I just don't see projects (such as Quill) as
> being
> in a "miscellaneous" category.

misc == anything that doesn't have a defined component over it.

> <snip>
> > > > tmp/
> > >
> > > Do we really still want this publicly available and mirrored?
> >
> > I imagine it depends on what it is. Better a location to put things that
> > don't fit somewhere else than have people throwing them in random existing
> > categories. The things that likely belong here now are tmp upload
> > locations which have to exist whether or not they are visible from the web
> > and mirrored.
>
> Nothing should be temporarily placed on our download site

Er, not really. People sometimes are trying to debug things like why a
particular iso doesn't work for someone and they'll upload 3 or 4 versions
til they track it down and put the real one up. For one example.

> and the upload scripts could work outside of the publicly viewable area.

They already do, these paths are fs-space, not URL-space.

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