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  • From: "Jeremy Blosser (emrys)" <jblosser-smgl AT firinn.org>
  • To: sm-security <sm-security AT lists.ibiblio.org>, sm-discuss <sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] A few words about hardened grimoire
  • Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:29:06 -0500

On Sep 20, Seth Alan Woolley [seth AT positivism.org] wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:47:34PM +0200, Ladislav Hagara wrote:
> > >
> > > So the question is : do you want
> > > some/all of these features in devel, and which ones ?
> > >
> >
> > There are some problems with security/hardened patches. The big one is
> > that usually they are not updated immediately with new version of
> > applications. So you can choose up-to-date version of application or its
> > stale version with security patch. Of course some users prefer new
> > version another prefer "secure" version.
> > If we integrate these security features into normal grimoire we will
> > have to add next VERSIONs into DETAILS of spells. Stable, devel, cvs and
> > for example selinux version.
> > We need more developers for it. It is easy to add security patch to
> > apllication once or twice. But keep them up-to-date and test them with
> > all options it is a lot of work.
>
> Agreed for the most part. We want to keep stuff that doesn't require
> patches/version separation mainline, and we can keep "hardened" going
> off to the side until the patches get integrated into the mainline
> if/when they do.
>
> Or we can make a spell-hardened spell with the lower version and setup
> providers if it becomes a small enough grimoire as to not make sense
> separately.

When spells support full multi-versioning[0] we can make -hardened another
pseudo-version ala "CVS" that uses the last relevant source and the
hardened patches. We could actually do that now inside our current
multi-version standards[1] (perhaps multi-branch is a better term) pretty
easily.

[0] http://bugs.sourcemage.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8333
[1] http://www.sourcemage.org/grimoire/spell_multi_version

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