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[David Kowis <dkowis AT shlrm.org>]

Quoting Eric Sandall <eric AT sandall.us>:

> Quoting Arwed von Merkatz <v.merkatz AT gmx.net>:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > elaine from Lunar Linux just stopped by on irc describing how they do
> > monitoring of their userbase. I think it could be useful for us too.
> > 
> > <elaine_> holas, q: you guys still interested in inventory-ing your
> > users
> > <alley_cat> heya elaine_
> > <alley_cat> you mean finding out the number of our users?
> > <elaine_> heya ac
> > <elaine_> yep
> > <alley_cat> i think most of us are interested in that
> > <elaine_> ok we have a function in our moonbase download that's been in
> > place for abt a year, it hashes the MAC addr of the primary network
> > i'face and xmits that to a log
> > <elaine_> too many people have dynamic IP's to get any data from IP
> > <alley_cat> yeah
> > <bascule> and in contrast there are three users behind a NAT router in
> > my house
> > <elaine_> what we found was a very few users update weekly or less, the
> > average user only updates moonbase montly so it takes time to get a
> > sense of user counts
> > <elaine_> anyhow the code is in our functions i fyou want to lift it
> > <alley_cat> definitely sounds interesting
> > <ruskie> moonbase???
> > <alley_cat> lunars equivalent of sorcery/grimoire
> > <elaine_> yea sorry I'm too tired today to switch lingo
> > <ruskie> never heard
> > <alley_cat> thanks for the tip elaine_, i'll write a mail to our list
> > about it
> > <elaine_> alley_cat of course there's a server script to gather / log
> > the data, I tried doing it the fancy way and reverted to the simple way
> > <alley_cat> ruskie: http://sourcemage.org/info/about/history.html
> > <elaine_> there was some griping abt 'spyware' but practically if you
> > want to know you gotta gather some info
> > <alley_cat> i think using a hash of the MAC address should be quite safe
> > privacy wise
> > <elaine_> alley_cat grep our functions for 'uniq', i fyou want to use it
> > I'll get you the server script as well
> > <elaine_> alley_cat yes that's what we decided, it's also written to be
> > a bit portable
> 
> I don't have a problem with that and it'd be nice to know about how often
> people
> update their grimoires (so we can have a more reasonable release schedule of
> stable) and how many users (roughly) we have.

And if we do such things we can display pretty graphs of user usage and such.
> -sandalle
> 
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