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  • From: Arwed von Merkatz <v.merkatz AT gmx.net>
  • To: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] Support for application menus under different desktop environments
  • Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 01:20:21 +0200

On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 04:18:05PM -0600, Derek Moyes wrote:
> I think this is a great idea, however, I think this is going to be something
> addressed by the Freedesktop.org integration stuff -- so maybe we ought to
> get
> involved in that instead of "rolling our own" as it were.
>
> -- Derek, sorcerer AT flamesnyper.com

That's the plan, following the freedesktop menu standard with our spells
to install .desktop files.

> Quoting evraire AT tuwg.com:
>
> > Hello,
> > I still find there's a lacking in our distro in one small (yet
> > significant
> > IMHO) area: desktop environment menus. What I mean by "desktop
> > environment
> > menus" is the main menu system you find under Gnome, Gnome2, KDE,
> > Enlightenment, XFCE and other such systems that offer a place where
> > installed
> > applications show up (ie: the Applications menu under Gnome2, the K under
> > KDE, etc.)
> >
> > The problem I see is that installed applications don't always show up in
> > the menu: some do, and some don't. Sometimes they show up in one menu
> > (KDE
> > is particularly good), but not others (like Gnome2). As an example of
> > this,
> > I've got firefox installed and IMO it should've added itself to the
> > Internet
> > sub-menu of my Applications menu automatically (I'm running a Gnome2
> > desktop), but I needed to do so myself. On the other hand, I just cast
> > xchat
> > and it /did/ add itself to the Internet sub-menu!
> >
> > This is highly inconsistent and takes something away from the user
> > experience of someone running our distro. Adding this feature would add a
> > significant degree of polish to running SMGL as a desktop system. I
> > realize
> > this is more challenging than it sounds: different desktop environments
> > use
> > different methods for building their menus. What happens if I decide to
> > move
> > XChat from Internet to Chat? Should my other desktop environments reflect
> > that change? Should the change be specific to the current user, or be
> > reflected across the system (or have the option for both)? What happens
> > when
> > I next recast XChat? Will it reinstall itself in the Internet menu,
> > leaving
> > me with two links? Some spells install multiple binaries, but only one
> > or a
> > subset of those should appear in the menu... etc.
> >
> > I've started a feature request under bugzilla
> > (http://bugs.sourcemage.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6322) where I'd like to
> > discuss
> > with all of you how you think we should address this, or even if you
> > think we
> > should address this at all?
> >
> > Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
> >
> > Jonathan Evraire
> > evraire at tuwg.com
> >
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> -- Derek, sorcerer AT flamesnyper.com
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