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  • From: Martin Naylor <martinwnaylor AT yahoo.com.au>
  • To: Permaculture Information Web <piw AT lists.ibiblio.org>, permaculture-oceania AT lists.cat.org.au, Stephanie Gerson <sgerson AT stanfordalumni.org>
  • Subject: Re: PIW Graphing the Symantic Web
  • Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:49:31 +1000 (EST)

hi
i just posted this on permaculture-oceania list, geez 0!!! it's good to hear you guy's, and your going to get into the permaculture activists, me my self and i have been getting into the moody blues and reading krishnamurti for the last 30 years, god i love this,i need someone to help me build a web site based on this, i'll give them moshe feldenkrais, awareness through movement, masters and houstons mind games, the complete moody blues,bob dylan, rolling stones, beatels, george harrison, john martyn, jim post, and last but not least john lennon singing mind games, yes!! and i'll even through that in too for totaly free, just go to your local libary,  
and freinds of the earth
love and freedom are at the begining
martin
ps did i forget jimi hendrix, neil young, santana
ps any woman looking to live in australia, see me, i'm looking for love
pss must be totaly realized in the above 
 
ichard Morris <webmaster AT pfaf.org> wrote:
Hi Folks,
My latest wheeze, not sure if its strictly on topic for
permaculture.info but here goes.

I've been pondering a graphing program which could pull data off any
website and produce graphs and charts.

For example I might wish to create a graph of polulation by countries by
pulling data off the CIA world fact website.

To do this there are basically three components

external website - writtend in html (hard) or xml (easy)
html-microformat tags (easy).

Scaper programs - these have the responsability for parsing websites
and extracting data from them.

Graphing client - gets data from different scrapers and creates a graph.

There might be a number of different scraper programs.

A standard xml scraper which could use an xslt script to pull elements
from an xml document. This could also be used with microformats.

Custom scrapers, tuned for a particular html website. Copes with the
indosyncraticies of its format.

Scrapers for other services.


How this relates to piw.

PIW server could be a typical exteran website.
I could write a scraper to parse the site and pull out data.
This would then allow a graphing client to say graph the heights of a
selection of trees.

The same tech could also be used for other clients other than graphs.

Other elements, there is a need for a standard format for the output of
scraper programs. This would need to be generic rather than subject
specific, i.e. no asumptions about field names etc.

Anyway off to school

Rich

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