| Justin Dr Percy wanted his faith to have A lineage At least this is my own thinking Catholicism as he practiced it Or as he SAW it Was about the fact that ( although Perhaps it’s a story ?) There once arose a man who Invented love Percy is a believer not a doubter Gnosticism is for doubters And emanations arise from The empty ground quantum said there is nothing Compassion arises when you Are in the flow of emanations ?? Merton thought so but couldn’t Get his unknowing flowing Seeing what arises !! Perhaps Dr Percy was looking at Us and our arisingS Like a man sitting on the highest Tree or in the fire looking tower looking down I’m not sure we Creatures that Talk and use signs have gotten Very far? I think a are still in da mud Thank you Lauren Berdy
Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Justin Bonanno <bonannju AT gmail.com> wrote:
I vaguely recall reading about emanationism as it pertains to Gnosticism at some point. The New Advent article suggested by Joe should answer what the Catholic Church has taught about "emanationism":
"The doctrine of creation teaches that all things are distinct from God, but that God is their efficient cause. God does not produce things from His own substance nor from any pre-existing reality, but by an act of His will brings them out of nothing. According to emanationism, on the contrary, the Divine substance is the reality from which all things are derived, not by any voluntary determination, but by a necessity of nature. And God does not produce all things immediately; the lower are more distant, and are separated from Him by necessary intermediaries. (It may be noted, however, that sometimes the word emanation is used in a broader sense including also creation. Thus St. Thomas: "Quæritur de modo emanationis rerum a primo principio qui dicitur creatio". Summa, I, Q. xlv, a. 1.)"
And:
"Philosophically the discussion of emanationism supposes the discussion of the whole problem of the nature of God, especially of His simplicity and infinity. The doctrine of the Catholic Church is contained in the definition of the dogma of the creatio ex nihilo by the Fourth Lateran Council and, especially, the Council of the Vatican. The latter expressly condemns emanationism (I. De Deo rerum omnium creatore, can. iv), and anathematizes those "asserting that finite things, both corporeal and spiritual, or at least spiritual, have "emanated from the Divine substance.""
Question: Did you find the term emanationism in Percy? He was against Gnosticism (see p. 25 in Samway's Thief of Peirce). I'm wondering about the linkage between Percy and emanationism....
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Thank you all for your kind attention to my inquiry
Emanation ? to flow from?
(From which all things are derived from the first reality or
Principle)
? the first impressions are immortal all?
From Thomas Traherne Poem
?Dumbness?
I?m interested in rooting about the ground of all things
Lauren
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> On Jul 8, 2020, at 8:50 PM, janetcantor37--- via Percy-L <percy-l AT lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
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> Welcome and have more to say here. This is really to the point and had to be helpful.
> Janet Cantor
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> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 08:34:57 PM EDT, Joseph Francisco <joe.francisco4591 AT gmail.com> wrote:
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> Well this article is quite the rabbit hole:
> https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05397b.htm
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> But may give a little better sense of Emanation as it may be used in Catholic theology (not a common term, to my knowledge).
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> In Percy, man's search for God is undertaken in the arena of people and things in the world. It's possible to seek Him there because all of created Being emanates from Him. Kind of like how you can tell a little bit about an artist from seeing his art.
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> Anyway. Hope that is helpful.
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> Also, I've been following on here for a while now, but haven't introduced myself. I'm an English teacher living in New Jersey. Discovered Percy in college and 'reverted' to Catholicism shortly thereafter.
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> Cheers,
> Joe Francisco
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> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 4:16 PM Lauren Berdy <lauren.stacy.berdy AT gmail.com> wrote:
> I took the liberty of asking a question
> Outside this circles former content.
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> Theological meaning for
> Emanation ?
> The metaphors behind?
> I wonder this as it is a word
> That might help along my own
> Thoughts on ?first causes?
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