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- From: "Karey L. Perkins" <karey AT charter.net>
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- Subject: Re: [percy-l] Lab chimp speaks his own language
- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:34:54 -0500
The thing to think about is -- Kanzi IS
communicating, but is Kanzi dealing in sign or symbol? Is he developing a
mythology and a "world"? I think Percy would say no...pointing to
grape "icons" and going outside the cage are still interactions in an
"environment" (cf. Percy's definition of "world" and
"environment"...)
KP
----- Original Message -----
From: Parlin, Steven
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:39 AM
Subject: [percy-l] Lab chimp speaks his own language Here's an interesting wrinkle in the Kanzie debate. I have't formed an opinion yet, but thought I'd throw it to the list to chew on. Steve Lab chimp speaks his own language 10:15 02 January 03 Exclusive from New Scientist http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993218 A bonobo has surprised his trainers by appearing to make up his own "words". It is the first report of an ape making sounds that seem to hold their meaning across different situations, and the latest challenge to the orthodox view that animals do not have language.Kanzi is an adult bonobo kept at Georgia State University in Atlanta. He has grown up in captivity among humans, and is adept at communicating with symbols. He also understands some spoken English, and can respond to phrases such as "go out of the cage" and "do you want a banana?"Jared Taglialatela and Sue Savage-Rumbaugh, who work with Kanzi, noticed that he was making gentle noises during his interactions with them. "We wanted to know if there was any rhyme or reason to when they were produced," says Taglialatela.So his team studied 100 hours of videotape showing Kanzi's day-to-day interactions and analysed the sounds he made at various times. They picked situations in which the bonobo's actions were unambiguous: for example, while he was eating a banana, pointing to the symbol for "grapes", or responding to a request to go outside by leaving the cage.They identified four sounds that Kanzi made in different contexts - banana, grapes, juice and yes. In each of these contexts, Kanzi made the same sound. "We haven't taught him this," says Taglialatela. "He's doing it on his own." References 31. http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992678 32. http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992662 33. http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991430 34. http://archive.newscientist.com/ 35. http://www.gsu.edu/~wwwlrc/biographies/kanzi.html 36. http://www.biology.gsu.edu/depart/faculty/srumbaugh.htm 37. http://www.pigeon.psy.tufts.edu/psych26/language.htm -- An archive of all list discussion is available at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy/hypermail Visit the Walker Percy Project at http://www.ibiblio.org/wpercy |
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[percy-l] Lab chimp speaks his own language,
Parlin, Steven, 01/08/2003
- Re: [percy-l] Lab chimp speaks his own language, Karey L. Perkins, 01/08/2003
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