pcplantdb

["Stephanie Gerson" <sgerson@stanfordalumni.org>]

????

I spent many hours applying for funding, and deferred a large majority of
costs because I wanted funding to go to you and to implementation.  So I'd
appreciate it if you didn't take your frustration out on me.  Chad, if you'd
like to be paid, you should just bill.  And if you'd rather not work on the
project at all, please just be honest.

This is exactly why I suggested that we simply return funds to Threshold -
because I saw that this project was not happening.

I take full responsibility for disappearing, but I (mistakenly?) thought we
were in implementation mode and frankly didn't have the technical literacy to
understand most of the emails being passed around.

questions:
-do we still want to work on this project?
-do we consider this project worthwile (even if we personally don't want to
work on it)?
-is it justifiable to retain Threshold funding???

not angry.  I appreciate you all and have enjoyed working and non-working with
you ;)  but wanting HONESTY.

what do you say?
*s


------ Original Message ------
Received: 10:55 AM PDT, 06/05/2006
From: Chad Knepp <pyg@galatea.org>
To: pci@permaculture-inst.orgCc: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net>,       
Stephanie Gerson <sgerson@stanfordalumni.org>,  pcplantdb@lists.ibiblio.org 
Subject: Report to Threshold

Hi Scott and others,

Scott Pittman writes:
 > Chad,
 > I didn't hear from you after my last post.  Could you please send me the 
 > report that you composed so that I can send it and stay in some sort of 
 > good grace with Threshold?  I know you have higher prioritites than this 
 > DB but it is important that we stay somewhat connected.  It seems that 
 > your interest has waned considerable since we started and that you may 
 > have a problem stating that you are no longer interested, if that is the 
 > case it would be appropriate for you to say so to the whole group so 
 > that we don't continue to carry expectations of you that you don't 
 > intend to carry out. 
 > Thanks,
 > Scott Pittman

I've attached the report as a text document.

Yes it's true that my interest has waned for several reasons one being
that my real world experience implementing my permaculture dreams at
Red Earth is consuming 60 plus hours of my week.  The other important
and yet unstated reason that my participation has declined
dramatically is because of growing dissatisfaction with my current
level of responsibility and production in relation to the
compensation.  I will readily admit that much of this dissatisfaction
is self created in that I consistently underbill for my time.  

I would also like to point out that although it may seem like I have
some leadership role in this project that in fact my name does not
appear on the original grant application and that I was later added to
the project to do some of the technical implementation of the projects
goals.  After spending some several hours preparing (not billed for)
the report I became somewhat upset in realizing that I am doing a job
which Stephanie has already been compensated for.

Some pertinent elements from the project expenses department.

August 10, 2004         Permaculture Institute  Administrative fee      800.00
October 20, 2004        Chad Knepp              Programming             495.00
January 7, 2005         Stephanie Gerson        Project Coordination    
1,000.00
July 26, 2005           Chad Knepp              Programming             630.00
January 18, 2006        Chad Knepp              Programming             765.00
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Chad's total                                                            
$1890.00

I'm currently turning down jobs that pay upwards of $20/hr because the
financial incentive is not enough for me to take time away from far
more important things.  Even though I love and believe in this project
the $2-$3/hr I am making is not enough convince me to walk 3/4 mile
and sit in front of this computer very often.

Sorry if I'm coming off as sounding whiny... as I said earlier I don't
see that I will have time to contribute to this project before Nov 1st
at the earliest.  At that point funded or not I will again take up the
task.  I am excited about what Bear is doing and although I don't like
php at all (security reasons) I can easily port his tagging
implementation to the python version this fall.

Cheers,
Chad


-- 
Chad Knepp
python -c 'import base64;print base64.decodestring("cHlnQGdhbGF0ZWEub3Jn")'

                                   


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>       Attachment: 2005 PIW report
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Stephanie Gerson
sgerson@stanfordalumni.org
(c) 415.871.5683


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