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  • From: imam@saleema.fsnet.co.uk
  • To: pcplantdb <pcplantdb@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [pcplantdb] (no subject)
  • Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:30:57 +0200 (CEST)

I'm afraid I gave up before the end of the instructions on how to write a bug.  Sorry

Saleema




> Message date : Jul 25 2005, 03:43 PM
> From : "John Schinnerer"
> To : "pcplantdb"
> Copy to :
> Subject : Re: [pcplantdb] new comments on 0.2.3 - advanced search
> Aloha,
>
> I follow your logic.
> However, we're dealing with human beings, not logic.
>
> Bottom line for me is that Stephanie didn't get what she expected - not
> even close, nor could she readily figure out why and what and how it
> actually worked and what to do different to get what she wanted/expected.
> My assumptions and understandings pretty much matched hers or I wouldn't
> have made such a long comment.
>
> So are we going to make software that works intuitively based on what
> people expect and want, or are we going to do it 'logically' and then have
> a huge FAQ and howto and so on explaining how it actually works and what
> counter-intuitive things one has to learn to do to get what one actually
> wants out of the system?
>
> I'm exaggerating somewhat, but IMO that's exactly why computers/software
> is mostly so crappy and hard to use. Engineers 'design' it based on
> abstractions and logic and not on how people experience existence and
> interact with context.
>
> Also, from her msg. I didn't get that the 'first 10' or however many items
> matched all her constraints, the way you say it would work:
>
> > ...If an object or objects match all
> > 10 then the AND displays the object[s]... so does the OR followed by
> > other items that didn't match all 10.
>
> It sounded to me like she got nothing like she expected, certainly not at
> the top of the list.
> Correct me if I'm wrong on that Stephanie.
>
> At the very least adv. srch. needs some help info so people know how to
> use it, if it's going to stay the way it is.
>
> My guess is that most people will not get it and will have a hard time
> figuring it out.
>
> My comparison is not to internet search engines, it is to at least
> somewhat focused database search forms and queries, which is what I
> thought we were building here.
>
> John S.
>
> John Schinnerer - MA, Whole Systems Design
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