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  • From: Stephanie Gerson <sgerson@stanfordalumni.org>
  • To: <john@eco-living.net>, Permaculture Plant Database <pcplantdb@lists.ibiblio.org>
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  • Subject: Re: [pcplantdb] needing direction - users, comments
  • Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:16:50 -0700

ha! You make me laugh, Johns ;)

I think this post should be the intro to our user feedback page.

In other words, ditto.
*s



------ Original Message ------
Received: 11:42 PM PST, 03/30/2005
From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net>
To: Permaculture Plant Database <pcplantdb@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pcplantdb] needing direction - users, comments

Aloha,

> In the mean time I can think of a number of other
> things to do but I also need some guidance.

I'd really *really* like to see user creation/management implemented
ASAP so that we can create our own...that seems to me more fundamental
than anything else at this point.

It's also better for testing whatever else you're working on in future,
since we'll shake out bugs in user creation and permissions as well as
any assumptions that might have been made about "the" user elsewhere in
code.

I'm also not very supportive, per Rich's comments, about a threaded
conversation type of comment system/interface.

When I find "information" stored that way, I generally bail on that
site/situation and go looking elsewhere unless I have absolutely no
choice.
It's just too much overhead - usually - to actually find what I'm
looking for amidst all the yak-yak and "me too" and "you moron" and so
on.

In other words, usually a poor signal-to-noise ratio IMO.

In particular the comment-on-this-comment structure IMO encourages (or
at least enables more so than other structures) endless rebuttals of
rebuttals, etc. (e.g. pissing contests). After all, why would I comment
on a comment except to either say some form of "me too" (which I assume
our moderation system will provide for) or some form of "you moron"
(which I assume our moderation system will also provide for)?

If I have something more distinct and significant to say than "ditto" or
"nonsense", I would be inclined to put it in a "new" comment of my
own...and would prefer others did likewise.

So, I was assuming we were thinking of more of a "state your piece" type
of comment - as in, here's what I know about this plant, with relevant
references and resources and experiences, period.

Then moderation kicks in to determine where that comment floats to
relative to other info on that plant.

That would be my strong preference.

John S.



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