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- From: Alwyn Smith <alwyn.smith AT gmail.com>
- To: annallys Goodwin-Landher <annallys AT hotmail.com>
- Cc: Lewis Cauble <lewis AT hivebody.com>, OCBA Listserv <ocba AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [ocba] Great
- Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 10:48:19 -0400
First, always look at the stakeholders in any organization. Here are those active in the Honey Bee Health Coalition Highlighted companies have an investment in continuing to poison insects including the honey bee. I didn't take the time to research all of the companies. All those highlighted are invested in the continuing use of pesticides. Please notice that no organic organization is listed.
the Agricultural Retailers Association
-the Almond Board of California
-the American Beekeeping Federation
-the American Honey Producers Association
-the American Seed Trade Association
-Apiary Inspectors of America
-BASF
-Bayer CropScience
-Browning Honey Company
-Canadian Association of Professional Apiculturists
-the Canadian Honey Council
-Canola Council of Canada
-Conservation Technology Information Center
-CropLife America-CropLife Canada
-Ducks Unlimited
-DuPont
-Eastern Apicultural Society of North America, Inc
-Eastern Missouri Beekeepers Association
-Florida Fruit and Vegetable Association
-Land O’Lakes, Inc.
-Levin Family Foundation
-Monsanto Company
-the National Association of State
Departments of Agriculture
-National Association of Wheat Growers
-National Corn Growers Association
-NOD Apiary Products
-Oregon State Beekeepers Association
-Pheasants Forever
-Pollinator Stewardship Council
-Project Apis m.
-the Saint Louis Zoo’s WildCare Institute Center for Native Pollinator Conservation
-Syngenta
-United Soybean Board
-the University of Maryland’s Department of Entomology
-the U.S. Canola Association
-Western Apicultural Society
Second, google honey bee health. Monsanto comes up first,
Third, realize that the funding agencies for any research play with statistics. When I worked as a grunt in NIH research, the coding systems were "tweeked" changed three times to get a 40% enrollment rate rather than the actual 10% enrollment rate. This happens all the time. What we in America call good solid research is often funded by the companies with a vested interest in outcomes and then appropriately manipulated for those outcomes
Fourth, In the USof A we create scapegoats for problems to distract us from the real problem inherent in the way our government promotes doing things. Varroa as the enemy, same as saying Islamist are the enemy, communists are the enemy, hippies are the enemy, etc.
Educate yourself about how varroa operates but get off the soapbox that varroa's the enemy. If there's any enemy it's humankind and ongoing escalating use of more and stronger pesticides, crazy chemical based treatments for bees, and destruction of habitat and forage.
From: ocba <ocba-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of Lewis Cauble <lewis AT hivebody.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 8:46 AM
Cc: 'OCBA Listserv'
Subject: Re: [ocba] GreatBelow are the resources that I believe are very useful for beekeepers who appreciate evidence based/science based information:
http://honeybeehealthcoalition.org/varroa/ I believe this is one of the finest documents regarding varroa. Tons of information in an easy to read format and the resources section will take you to more good information. Must read!
http://articles.extension.org/pages/71172/honey-bee-viruses-the-deadly-varroa-mite-associates#.VAm9e0Dp8_c The HBHC document is a bit light on virus information, so use this article to fill in the gaps.
http://www.ask-force.org/web/Bees/Rosenkranz-Biology-Control-Varroa-2010.pdf Everything you want to or need to know regarding the biology of varroa. If you want to know your enemy, this is the place to get that info. Not an easy read but contains important info.
http://articles.extension.org/bee_health Good articles about bee health.
http://www.nj.gov/agriculture/divisions/pi/pdf/fieldguidetohoneybees.pdf A nice little pocket guide to bee diseases. Everyone should study the section on brood diseases and the section on varroa.
Lewis
From: ocba [mailto:ocba-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Rob Cook
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 8:23 PM
To: Walter Starks <walterstarks AT icloud.com>; mark powers <markapowers53 AT gmail.com>
Cc: OCBA Listserv <ocba AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [ocba] Great
Hi Everyone,
Are there any papers out there, or someone's experience, with testing even on a weekly basis to know what the population dynamics of Varroa can be?
How does temperature, or other physical conditions of the hive, affect them?
Is there any bait for them? I am new to all this so just learning.
Rob Crook
On Monday, March 14, 2016 7:22 PM, Walter Starks <walterstarks AT icloud.com> wrote:
IMO, not testing for Varroa is a mistake. I can perhaps understand not testing thousands of hives, but I think a random sampling should be done. For hobby beekeepers there really isn’t any reason not to test. It’s the best way to know if your treatments are working before the hive dies out.
I test mine in early spring, mid summer after removing supers and in the early fall. If I treat I’ll test again when the treatment is finished.
Treatment schedules are variable depending on whether or not you plan to harvest honey, treatment used, etc. Randall has a very good article here with details.
Right now is a good time to test and treat (if needed).
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Walter Starks
You never can tell with bees. ~ Winnie-the-Pooh
On Mar 14, 2016, at 4:15 PM, mark powers <markapowers53 AT gmail.com> wrote:
Good paper. Last fall I had relatively low varroa counts and decided to give 4 thymol treatments to our two colonies in September anyway. One of our young mentees then gave a great presentation that demonstrated that her counts had skyrocketed after thymol. I prepared to do a sugar shake the next day, with dread. I didn't even get to the shake. The removable board under the screen had numerous mites. I immediately treated with formic acid. Each day I saw fewer mites on the board when I pulled it out, until none were obvious. The weaker of my two hives did not survive February, with a small softball-sized cluster remnant. My other has lots of bees, but needs a queen, since it seems I have a virgin who is only laying drone. I saw and phographed her, so there doesn't seem to be a laying worker. I also saw supercedure cells in November. So if anyone has a lead on an immediate fertile queen, I'd be grateful. I didn't find any mites on a sugar shake Saturday. I also froze two frames of drone brood and reinstalled them today.
I am writing this mainly to ask for ideas on a schedule of pre-emptive treatments. I realize this doesn't eliminate the need to monitor, but I was impressed by the commercial beekeeper who spoke to us and indicted that he doesn't test, only treat.
Mark Powers
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:56 PM, Lewis Cauble <lewis AT hivebody.com> wrote:
Great article from BIP. I have been having many conversations just like this in the mountains. https://beeinformed.org/2016/03/08/why-did-my-honey-bees-die/
Lewis
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mark powers, 03/14/2016
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Walter Starks, 03/14/2016
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Rob Cook, 03/14/2016
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Lewis Cauble, 03/15/2016
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annallys Goodwin-Landher, 03/15/2016
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Alwyn Smith, 03/15/2016
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Alwyn Smith, 03/15/2016
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annallys Goodwin-Landher, 03/15/2016
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Rob Cook, 03/14/2016
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Walter Starks, 03/14/2016
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