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  • From: "birdcr AT concentric.net" <birdcr AT concentric.net>
  • To: Marty Hanks <marty AT justbeenc.com>, Orange County Bees <ocba AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [ocba] Powered Sugar Q's
  • Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 16:42:03 -0500 (CDT)

Folks,

I figured I used 22 times what Roger said they used in their study
the other night. That 22 times the 20 grams(16 ounces) was used
today on 2- 10 deep bodies. Exactly 4 hours after treatment I
estimated finding 350-400 varroa mites on the sticky board. Most
if you poked them would wiggle their little legs. I've not tried
poking the ones normally found on the sticky board, most cases
they looked to be dead.

Thinking 350-400 mites tells me something works. This was my 4th
treatment.

My thought is these chemical companies just can not say powered
sugar does work, it is against their best interest to do so.

Randy Emmitt
www.rlephoto.com



On Sun Mar 11 15:47:23 CDT 2012, Marty Hanks <marty AT justbeenc.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Guys!
>
> that is what i thought. i see that 20grams is less than one
> ounce. does
> anyone know what or have a scale to weigh 20grams to see how much
> volume
> that is? Most folks i know say they use 1 cup per hive per
> treatment).
> seems 1 cup is way more the norm today & is much more than 20
> grams.
>
> Not sure why he would use the same measured volume of the three.
> i guess
> its one way to try and be scientific...my only issue is the
> others are *
> concentrated* chemicals (and no i do not recall the other base
> line
> either). I thought he said it was not an effective treatment at
> all. Either
> way...i just do not think 20 grams of sugar should ever be
> compared to 20
> grams of concentrated chemicals or even organic compounds.
>
> I guess its more a "method" test we are after. I'll see your 20
> grams of
> chems and i'll raise you 6 cups of power sugar over 3 treatment
> cycles. :-P
>
> I think these will be great tests to have and follow at the new
> "natural"
> sites coming this year.
>
> marty
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Lewis Cauble
> <lewis AT hivebody.com> wrote:
>
>> I believe he did use 20 grams.
>>
>> Read the studies on the effectiveness of using powdered sugar
>> here...
>>
>>
>> http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=powdered+sugar+varroa&hl=en&btnG=Search&as_sdt=1%2C34&as_sdtp=on
>>
>> Lewis
>>
>>
>> On Mar 11, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Marty Hanks wrote:
>>
>> thanks Dick...i had actually meant to say 20 grams. i really do
>> think he
>> said 20 grams...was I wrong?
>> mh
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Dick Merritt
>> <dickmerritt AT mindspring.com>wrote:
>>
>>> 20 oz is 1.25 pounds of sugar (or anything else). That is more
>>> than half
>>> of a small (2 lb) bag of confectioner's sugar. That is a
>>> respectable bunch
>>> of sugar for one application.
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/11/2012 9:23 AM, Marty Hanks wrote:
>>>
>>> morning,
>>>
>>> i need some help from those who went to the thursday night OCBA
>>> meeting.
>>>
>>> During the presentation Dick spoke about how,* in his
>>> research*, sugar
>>> shake treatments are not effective. After some prodding and
>>> multiple
>>> questions I "think" i heard him say he did 2 treatments 2 weeks
>>> apart. My
>>> biggest question is did i hear him wrong when he said he only
>>> used 20 oz??
>>>
>>> I thought he said he used that amount because it was equal to
>>> the content
>>> of the other two treatments(chemicals). Did i miss anything or
>>> was that the
>>> amount he said he used??
>>>
>>> If so here is a quick reference chart....and it should be noted
>>> that 20oz
>>> of a concentrated chemical is WAY more potent than 20 oz of
>>> powered sugar
>>> by volume.
>>>
>>> WEIGHT)
>>>
>>> 1 ounce = 28.35 grams
>>> 1 pound = 453.59 grams
>>> 1 pound = 0.454 kg
>>>
>>>
>>> That would mean he used less than 1 ounce of powered sugar per
>>> treatment.
>>> Can those there at the meeting help me because i must have
>>> misunderstood
>>> him. please help!
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> marty
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Marty Hanks
>> Just Bee, Apiaries
>>
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> -- Marty Hanks
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>
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