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[Louis Pittman <lpittman@murraystate.edu>]

I'm with the others - no amendments.  Early on in my orcharding career, I
dug those $100 dollar holes and amended with peat and composted sheep
manure... creating a 'bathtub' in my GOOD CLAY SOIL that essentially
drowned the grafted pecans I'd purchased.  I have really nice soil, with
few rocks, and any more, I dig a $5 hole for a $10 tree.

On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 7:46 PM DB <pogohome@gmail.com> wrote:

>  I am wondering if putting some dead leaves (that time of year) into the
> bottom of a hole before planting a tree would be of any benefit and add
> some biology to the clay.
> I have thick clay just a few inches down and want to do something to jump
> start the soil for when I plant the fruit
> <https://permies.com/t/52914/videos/grow-groceries-dvd-set-marjory> trees
> <https://permies.com/t/9758/woodland/man-planted-trees> (seedlings) in the
> spring.  Pawpaw and American Persimmon.
> Since I have a concern with large rocks being just below the surface I will
> use a small backhoe to dig holes a couple feet deep and then fill the holes
> back in.
> I have ordered some expanded shale and was thinking of using some of the
> many oak leaves that get placed on the streets here.
> Would vermiculite or something else help here?
> Looking at a $100 hole for a $10 tree.
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