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  • From: alexis <alex@conev.org>
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  • Subject: Re: [nafex] Wintersweet Pear
  • Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:51:24 -0400

Melissa,
I don't have enough experience with Goldrush to know if the comparison holds.
As for rootstock, I have stuck with OHxF. The smallest OHxF is 333. I have grafted hundreds of trees on OHxF 333 and never seen any need for anchoring. It NOT like dwarfing apple rootstock that makes sickly trees that fall over in the breeze. The OHxF is perhaps better called a semi-dwarf. My Wintersweets on OHxF 333 are not small trees. They are narrow, but not short, and still very, very vigorous.
When it comes to pruning, there is a wide range of technique that can produce acceptable results. I prune as little as possible, until a tree tells me it wants more. (They tell you if you watch them.) The Wintersweet would probably benefit from some spreading. It definitely bunches up like Asian pears often do. I have a friend who has a couple of Wintersweet trees and he has cut them hard. I will watch his trees. I suspect that, at least in the near term, my largely unpruned trees will outproduce his, but we will see.
I will post a short description that can be forwarded to Gardenweb.
Thanks,
Alexis


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1. Re: New Pear Variety for Self Sufficiency (Melissa Kacalanos)
2. Fanatical Botanical: Grow jujubes for a new fruit experience
(Roanoke Times) (Brungardt, Sam (MPCA))


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:09:44 -0400
From: Melissa Kacalanos <mijwiz@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [nafex] New Pear Variety for Self Sufficiency
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Cool, I sent an email indicating my interest. From the description, it
reminds me of Goldrush apple, which is so inedibly hard and sour in fall,
even insects and squirrels won't eat it. After mellowing in storage for
months, it's finally delicious in spring, with a good sweet/tart balance and
lots of aromatic flavor. Am I right in thinking this pear is similar?

If the tree is so vigorous, it must require a lot of pruning. I'd be
concerned that a dwarfing rootstock might not be sufficient to anchor it
properly if it's allowed to grow too big. I've requested mine on standard
rootstock. I don't mind a big tree. Although I can imagine others would want
it on the most dwarfing rootstock possible, to try to keep its vigor in
bounds.

I'd be curious to plant seeds from this tree. To me, pears tend to err on the
side of blandness. I'd like to taste a pear with a classic dessert pear
texture but a bit more oomph in taste. If this pear has been pollinated by
more classic dessert pears, the seedlings may be interesting.

I passed your post along to the NAFEX Facebook group. I wanted to also put it
in the Gardenweb Fruit and Orchards forum, but it was too long. You could
edit it down and post it there.

Melissa



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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:32:00 +0000
From: "Brungardt, Sam (MPCA)" <sam.brungardt@state.mn.us>
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Subject: [nafex] Fanatical Botanical: Grow jujubes for a new fruit
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Roanoke (Va.) Times (blog)

Jujube is a Chinese native that just happens to grow really well here in the
US, and especially in southwest VA. Gardening.org states that the tree is ...



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