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[alexis <alex@conev.org>]

Melissa,
I don't have enough experience with Goldrush to know if the comparison 
holds.
As for rootstock, I have stuck with OHxF. The smallest OHxF is 333. I 
have grafted hundreds of trees on OHxF 333 and never seen any need for 
anchoring. It NOT like dwarfing apple rootstock that makes sickly trees 
that fall over in the breeze. The OHxF is perhaps better called a 
semi-dwarf. My Wintersweets on OHxF 333 are not small trees. They are 
narrow, but not short, and still very, very vigorous.
When it comes to pruning, there is a wide range of technique that can 
produce acceptable results. I prune as little as possible, until a tree 
tells me it wants more. (They tell you if you watch them.) The 
Wintersweet would probably benefit from some spreading. It definitely 
bunches up like Asian pears often do. I have a friend who has a couple 
of Wintersweet trees and he has cut them hard. I will watch his trees. I 
suspect that, at least in the near term, my largely unpruned trees will 
outproduce his, but we will see.
I will post a short description that can be forwarded to Gardenweb.
Thanks,
Alexis


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> Cool, I sent an email indicating my interest. From the description, it 
> reminds me of Goldrush apple, which is so inedibly hard and sour in fall, 
> even insects and squirrels won't eat it. After mellowing in storage for 
> months, it's finally delicious in spring, with a good sweet/tart balance and 
> lots of aromatic flavor. Am I right in thinking this pear is similar?
>
> If the tree is so vigorous, it must require a lot of pruning. I'd be 
> concerned that a dwarfing rootstock might not be sufficient to anchor it 
> properly if it's allowed to grow too big. I've requested mine on standard 
> rootstock. I don't mind a big tree. Although I can imagine others would want 
> it on the most dwarfing rootstock possible, to try to keep its vigor in 
> bounds.
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> I'd be curious to plant seeds from this tree. To me, pears tend to err on the 
> side of blandness. I'd like to taste a pear with a classic dessert pear 
> texture but a bit more oomph in taste. If this pear has been pollinated by 
> more classic dessert pears, the seedlings may be interesting.
>
> I passed your post along to the NAFEX Facebook group. I wanted to also put it 
> in the Gardenweb Fruit and Orchards forum, but it was too long. You could 
> edit it down and post it there.
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> Melissa
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> Jujube is a Chinese native that just happens to grow really well here in the 
> US, and especially in southwest VA. Gardening.org states that the tree is ...
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