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  • From: Louis Pittman <>
  • To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters <>
  • Subject: Re: [nafex] Yates persimmon update
  • Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 20:15:49 -0500

I'm 'supposed' to be in 60-chromosome land, too... supposedly, the Ohio
River is the 'dividing line' between 90-C and 60-C, and I'm over 100 miles
south of the Ohio. All my 90-C females have produced mostly seeded fruit,
for years... some less seedy than others, and occasionally some seedless
Yes, I have Garretson and Early Golden and some of the Claypools, so maybe
they're pushing male flowers, but I was getting seeded fruits when all I
had were a couple of non-EG heritage females.


On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Elizabeth <> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> I previously posted in 2014 that I was perplexed why my 'Yates' persimmon
> contained seeds for the first time since I planted it. The tree has been
> bearing for about 4 years total. I live in an area with only 60 chromosome
> natives. There are no other 90 chromosome trees nearby (to my knowledge)
> except in my orchard. In 2014 these consisted of 3 selected varieties of
> grafted female kakis, 2 of which were old enough to bloom, and the Yates.
> Last year each Yates fruit contained 5 - 6 fully formed seeds. This year,
> they contain an average of about 1 seed per fruit. Most fruits are
> seedless, some have had up to 3 seeds per fruit.
> What has changed: I performed winter pruning this spring so it is possible
> that I pruned off a branch on a tree that had previously produced male
> flowers. I lost my Wase Fuyu during our unusually cold winter so it did not
> produce flowers this spring. The third kaki produced blooms for the first
> time in 2015.
> What I discovered: I evaluated each surviving persimmon tree for male
> flowers this spring. I detected none. Although I was looking for sports, so
> if I saw a branch covered with female flowers, I did not examine each
> flower on the branch, it is possible that I missed individual male flowers
> (if that occurs).
> I propagated every seed from the 2014 Yates crop. I guess I will find out
> what the 2014 pollinizer was in 8 years or so!
> Betsy Hilborn
> 7a Central NC
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