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- From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
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- Subject: Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook
- Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 05:38:52 -0400
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Andre Pierre <hello@protocol6.com> wrote:
>
>> Sites like Facebook and Google are not *just* convenient tools. They are
>> big corporations that often (usually?) have questionable patterns of
>> behavior.
>> To use them, and to actively encourage others to use them, is to endorse
>> such behaviors, or at best to turn a blind eye to them.
>>
>> For Facebook the list is pretty extensive and in my view damning:
>> https://stallman.org/facebook.html.
>>
>
More about this, found tonight after going down a rabbit hole in a blog to
some very interesting pages:
The Facebook Bully
Judge an online community by how well it protects its most vulnerable users.
https://medium.com/@jomc/the-facebook-bully-d7a16f6ede38
"Earlier this year, Google Plus abandoned its real-name policy as it created
<http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/07/17/google_plus_finally_ditches_its_ineffective_dangerous_real_name_policy.html>
“unnecessarily difficult experiences for some of our users.” This was an
opportunity likewise for Facebook to revise its approach to community
management. But the meeting was doomed from the start. Facebook apparently
had no intention of negotiating because the policy was crafted for the sale
of targeted ads not for the safety of human beings with complex identities."
>
> I did not realize what FB was up to until I read this news today:
> <>
> Ello’s thinly veiled rebuke to Facebook: ‘Your social network is owned by
> advertisers. Every post you share, every friend you make and every link you
> follow is tracked, recorded and converted into data.’
>
> SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — There has been a lot of chatter on social
> media this week about a new social network called Ello, which is getting
> buzz for its anti-Facebook Inc. stance. But is the start-up, which accepts
> no advertising and does no data mining, ready for prime time?
>
> Ello has apparently been gaining such a huge influx of new users that its
> servers were having problems in the past two days, despite the requirement
> that you need an invitation to join. As Ello tells users who visit its
> simple, clean, black-and-white site: It has a “manifesto.”
>
> “Your social network is owned by advertisers,” reads Ello’s “about” page.
> <https://ello.co/wtf/post/about> “Every post you share, every friend you
> make and every link you follow is tracked, recorded and converted into
> data. Advertisers buy your data so they can show you more ads. You are the
> product that’s bought and sold. ... We believe there is a better way."
>
> <>
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> Lawrence F. London
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com
> http://www.avantgeared.com
> https://plus.google.com/+Avantgeared
> Skype: lawrence.f.london
>
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Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook
, (continued)
- Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook, sherwin, 09/24/2014
- Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook, Tom Celona, 09/24/2014
- Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook, mIEKAL aND, 09/24/2014
- [nafex] Question about crabapple trees top-worked with domestic apples., Andre Pierre, 09/24/2014
- Re: [nafex] Question about crabapple trees top-worked with domestic apples., sherwin, 09/24/2014
- Message not available
- Re: [nafex] Question about crabapple trees top-worked with domestic apples., Ginda Fisher, 09/25/2014
- Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook, Lawrence London, 09/26/2014
- Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook, mIEKAL aND, 09/26/2014
- Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook, Lawrence London, 09/26/2014
- Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook, Lawrence London, 09/26/2014
- Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook, Lawrence London, 09/29/2014
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Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook,
mIEKAL aND, 09/22/2014
- Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook, Lawrence London, 09/23/2014
- Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook, mIEKAL aND, 09/23/2014
- Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook, Elizabeth Hilborn, 09/22/2014
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Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook,
mIEKAL aND, 09/22/2014
- Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook, mIEKAL aND, 09/22/2014
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