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[sherwin <sherwindu@att.net>]

Alan,

I see now my confusion about the cultivar types.  Strange, how
two fruits of the same species will have such different characteristics.

I still would be concerned about Black Knot on the Fellenberg Plum.
The first site I checked was from Pennsylvania State Extension and
they classified the Fellenberg as moderately resistant.  Perhaps, like
in my case, you may get hit at any time with the Black Knot.  This
same site I mentioned stated that the President variety was more
resistant to Black Knot.

                 Sherwin Dubren

On 2/13/2014 11:42 AM, Alan Haigh wrote:
> Sherwin, I don't think you disagree, just misunderstand my meaning.
> Italian plum is not  the same as Stanley and has more resistance to black
> knot based on my own observation.  Stanley is sometimes defined as an
> Italian type plum, but Italian also refers to a specific variety also known
> as Fellenberg.  Stanley is not worth growing, in my opinion, in spite of
> its consistent cropping, because it drops fruit off the tree before it is
> truly ripe.  A prune plum is unfit for eating until the flesh is a rich
> amber, as far as my palate is concerned.  Why settle for a 12 brix when you
> can get over 20?
>
> Black knot comes in cycles probably determined by the timing of rain and
> level of humidity.  It is also worse on sites with poor eastern exposure
> and obviously with infected native cherries nearby.  Keeping trees open
> with summer pruning can also be helpful as is cutting out the black knot
> repeatedly during the growing season when it is spreading badly.
>
> As plums go, Methely is the absolute worst sponge for this disease that I
> grow, and can increase problems for all nearby plums, much like quince with
> fireblight.
>
> I manage many varieties of plums on many different sites and have been
> afforded the opportunity of lots of anecdotal comparison of  plums over the
> years.  It is still only anecdotal, of course.
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