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  • From: Ginda Fisher <>
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  • Subject: Re: [nafex] apple rootstocks
  • Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:00:34 -0500

That does not match my experience. I have very limited sunlight, and that
stunts everything I plant. I have two apples on M111. One (Ashmeads Kernal)
gets very little sun, and doesn't grow much, but what does grow seems
straight enough, and I've had zero problems with suckers or other growth
below the graft. The other tree (Jonathan) grew very slowly until a neighbor
cut down a large oak. Then it took off. It started fruiting about 2 years
after the oak came down, and has grown to be perhaps 15 feet tall, maybe a
bit more. I prune it pretty aggressively in early spring, mostly for shape.
It also has no growth below the graft, and no suckers. The leader initially
grew straight (sometimes I had two competing leaders) but recently the leader
has started to flop over. Since I don't really want the tree to get any
higher, that doesn't seem like a problem. That tree was staked for several
years, but obviously doesn't need it now. The stake is still there, but no
longer attached to the tree. :) I've found M111 an easy rootstock.

Only two trees, so not much of a sample, but that's all the data I can offer.

Eastern MA, Zone 6

On Nov 26, 2013, at 8:48 AM, tanis wrote:

> Thanks, all, for the advice & ideas. My MM111s are sturdy & drought
> tolerant, but I have 10 year old grafts which I can touch the tops of. I'm
> 5'3". Most exasperating is that they want to grow vigorously from below
> the graft, no matter the topwork variety. Also, the topwork often grows at
> an angle. I would like to blame this on graft method but no other
> rootstock does this for me.
> If this sounds like another rootstock mis-labelled as 111, do let me know.
> ----------------------------------------
>> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:33:09 -0500
>> From: alandhaigh
>> To: nafex
>> Subject: [nafex] apple rootstocks
>> As a nurseryman who markets in bearing age fruit trees I strongly favor
>> M111 rootstocks. I am also a dry tree farmer with a sandy silt soil that
>> doesn't hold a lot of water, but my trees go into a vast range of soils
>> where I often end up managing them for the homeowners that hire me...
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