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- Subject: Re: [nafex] RIP Ed Mashburn
- Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 04:42:43 -0700 (PDT)
I also got some valuable information from him as well. Though I am way
outside the gooseberry/current region, he gave me inspiration and
suggestions on what to try in the humid south.
I can only hope that someone will will rescue his material and continue the
work in the same spirit of giving that he showed me.
Robert
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From: Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us>
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Subject: Re: [nafex] RIP Ed Mashburn
Thanks for letting us know. Ed Mashburn was a great guy. He inspired me to
grow currants, and gave me a lot of useful advice. I have regretted for years
that I never made it to his open house/currant festival when he used to have
them. He will be missed.
Ginda Fisher
On Apr 22, 2013, at 12:53 AM, fuwa fuwa usagi wrote:
> Gang,
>
> I am sorry if this is duplicate information. I looked at the archives and
> did not find this reported.
> I regret to inform you that long time NAFEX member and all around great
> guy, Ed Mashburn passed away on April 7th.
> Ed was very kind to me, and I purchased many plants from his over the
> years. He was generous with is knowledge. For those that do not know he
> was a ribes specialist.
>
> I found this obituary
>
> http://dailyitem.com/obituaries/x237739382/Everett-F-Ed-Mashburn-82-Sunbury/print
>
> The Daily Item, Sunbury, PA
> April 7, 2013
> Everett F. “Ed” Mashburn, 82, Sunbury
>
>
> The Daily Item
>
> — SUNBURY — Everett F. “Ed” Mashburn, 82, of Fegley Road, formerly of
> Northumberland, passed away on Saturday, April 6, 2013, at Geisinger
> Medical Center, Danville.
>
> He was born Sept. 3, 1930, in Chester, S.C., the son of the late Everett F.
> and Katherine (Robinson) Mashburn. On Sept. 2, 1967, he married the former
> Carol A. Biddle, who preceded him in death on March 1, 1992.
>
> Ed was a 1947 graduate of Chester High School and later attended George
> Washington University, where he studied biology and chemistry. He then
> joined the Army in 1949 and served as a medic in the Korean War in 1950. He
> then transferred to the Air Force, where he worked as a civilian before
> beginning a career in the Federal Bureau of Prisons in 1957.
>
> He worked for the bureau until he retired after 22 years in 1981 as a
> hospital administrator. At that time, he also retired from the Army
> Reserves after 22 years. In 1996, Ed retired from Northumberland County,
> where he worked as a data coordinator.
>
> Upon returning to Pennsylvania in 1981, Ed began committing time to his
> passion for gardening and fruit growing. Over the next few years, he began
> experimenting with grafting techniques and growing rare fruits known as
> ribes (currants and gooseberries).
>
> He joined NAFEX (North American Fruit Explorers), the Backyard Fruit
> Growers Association and TIRA (The International Ribes Association), of
> which he was president and traveled throughout the United States for
> speaking engagements on currants and gooseberries as he was known as an
> expert on this subject. He also taught grafting seminars for the Backyard
> Fruit Growers Association.
>
> As a member of these organizations, he wrote countless articles for NAFEX
> and TIRA, mostly related to the culture of fruit, most often ribes.
>
> He joined the Penn State Extension, where he along with Dr. Jim Temple
> generated the idea for the first Northumberland County Fair. They were able
> to organize and put on the first Northumberland County Fair in 2001. He was
> the first fair board president and was instrumental in writing and
> obtaining grants, securing funding, advertising and obtaining donations
> from local businesses and organizing the first several years of the fair.
>
> He was a faithful member of Christ United Methodist Church, Northumberland.
>
> His fondest memories were of time spent with his family, especially
> grandchildren, and in his garden-orchard.
>
> He is survived by one son and daughter-in-law, Doug and Mara Sulouff, of
> Kutztown; five daughters and sons-in-law, Sherry and Galen Harvey, of
> Weikert, Judy and Michael Wilt, of Sunbury, Kathy and Jack Esworthy, of
> Roanoke, Va., Jan and Mike Flewelling, of Houston, Texas, and Wendy and
> Roger Wiest, of Sunbury; 13 grandchildren, Cassidy Walker, Brandon and
> Monica Wilt, Brett, Jamie, Jack and Ty Esworthy, Kimberly Moyer, Matthew
> Flewelling, Jessica Zapata, Reagan, Gweneth and Skyler Wiest; and one
> sister, Betty, of Naples, Fla.
>
> Friends and family may visit from 6 to 7 p.m. Wednesday at Christ United
> Methodist Church, Front and King streets, Northumberland, where a memorial
> service will follow at 7 with the Rev. James E. Lewis officiating.
>
> Military honors will be accorded by American Legion Post 44, Northumberland.
>
> In lieu of flowers, contributions in Ed’s memory may be made to his church,
> Christ United Methodist Church, Front and King streets, Northumberland, PA
> 17857.
>
> Arrangements are by the Joseph W. Epler Funeral Home, 210 King St.,
> Northumberland.
>
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If only it was so simple.� Unfortunately, the market dictates for most
growers what varieties must be grown and what the final price point will be
in order to be able to make a profit.� Lower yields and/or resistant
varieties that most consumers have never heard of aren't generally part of
this equation, except for those filling a�niche and/or selling in smaller
markets where these factors are less of a barrier.�
�
As a fruit breeder myself, I am focusing on improving disease resistance, but
I also must remind myself of something I was once told, which is that,
"Generally speaking, with very few exceptions, disease resistance is not
something that growers are looking for in new varieties.� If there is
something they can do culturally to control disease, they will.� Really what
it is all about at the end of the day�is yield and quality."� There are
several examples out there where industries would collapse if they didn't
have specific resistance in their varieties, but it is the exception rather
than the rule.� This is a sobering thought for someone wanting to develop
disease resistant varieties, because most of the resistance out there is in
poorly adapted germplasm or germplasm which lacks the yield and quality
people are looking for.� At the same time, in order for a new variety to be
successful and become adopted, you have to keep up with the advances in
quality made by other breeders releasing varieties without paying special
attention to those diseases, making it an even longer effort to combine
these.� Until significant funding is in place for an extended period to
support breeding programs specifically with the goal of improved disease
resistance, the market will dictate that the majority of breeders will ignore
diseases for which there are cultural (i.e. spray) fixes in favor of those
with yield and quality, because those are the varieties that will sell the
most plants and those are the ones that are going to generate the most
revenue through royalties to support further breeding.� As the model around
the world has shifted further and further away from public support for
breeding programs in favor of privately-funded proprietary programs, this is
becoming even more of a challenge.� Today, even our "public" programs are
under enormous financial pressure and breeders looking to keep their jobs
are well aware that they will be looked upon more favorably by their program
administrators for developing varieties that sell lots of plants, and/or
generate lots of revenue.
�
I'm not saying that we shouldn't all strive to reduce/eliminate the use of
antibiotics in growing apples and pears, but I think we need investments that
will develop real alternatives that will be available to all growers and
which are just as efficacious and less expensive.� Changing varieties in the
current system may solve the fireblight problem, but until the whole system
changes with new priorities and better educated consumers, it isn't a viable
alternative for most commercial-scale growers.
Michael Dossett
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Certain antibiotics are already approved for use on pears and apples labelled
as USDA Organic.� This was the status quo.� That status is up for renewal in
2014.
I was shocked as well when I read about it a few months ago in a Fruit
Growers News article.
I'm also a little surprised at those who say antibiotics are necessary to
grow even organic apples and pears.� Lots of us NAFEXers have been growing
apples and pears without using antibiotics.� I think a more accurate
assertion would be something like, "Antibiotics are needed to grow certain
well-known, but fireblight-susceptible, apple and pear cultivars on a
commercial scale.
Anton
North Carolina (fireblight central)
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>The FDA is contemplating the inclusion of antibiotics in organic apples and
>pears to counter fireblight!
>http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/04/08/176606069/surprise-organic-apples-and-pears-aren-t-free-of-antibiotics
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"Organic" fruit clearly labeled "Antibiotics have been used in the growing
of this fruit" WILL impact sales.
This specific case is a (lack of) communication issue, IMHO.
Pete Chrisbacher
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[nafex] RIP Ed Mashburn,
fuwa fuwa usagi, 04/22/2013
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Re: [nafex] RIP Ed Mashburn,
Ginda Fisher, 04/22/2013
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Re: [nafex] RIP Ed Mashburn,
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