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["Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>]

Persimmon would is also known as 'ebony.' Ebony doesn't just come in basic
black, but it always comes from Diospyros spp.

~ Stephen

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[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence F. London,
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Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [nafex] Prolific wild persimmons in southern Illinois

On 10/24/2012 7:42 PM, Joseph Richardson wrote:
> Last year around this time I saw what I was pretty sure were numerous 
> persimmons along interstate 24 in Southern Illinois.  Today I 
> confirmed that was what I was seeing.  I detoured off the interstate 
> into the national forest in the vicinity of Dutchman's lake (in this 
> case the persimmons were most numerous closest to the interstate)  and 
> also stopped off at Rend Lake and checked out the park that google 
> maps calls Wayne Fitzgerrell.  There are indeed persimmon trees all 
> over the place.  I know of no other place like it.  I probably ate 100 
> times more persimmons than I

> have the rest of my life combined and barely scratched the surface.  
> This would be a great area to look for improved trees in the wild.

That is a good idea.

I lived for a while on a piece of farmland in Chatham County NC that had
huge natural groves of mature persimmons and saplings. They were everywhere
along the forest edges and had taken over some of the field edges. This
grove is probably gone now due to sale of the property for development. I
have never seen as many persimmons in one place in my life. They were
growing in sandy loam soil with severe impermeable compacted clay a foot and
a half down in the Triassic Basin region between Pittsboro and Apex near a
Jordan Lake estuary.

Persimmon wood was used to make turned wooden spindles for winding cotton
yarn on in textile mills in the South. It was used because it is so hard and
tough. I prefer walking sticks made from straight limbs from persimmon
trees; they are stout, heavy and last forever.

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