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[Sarah Kehler Ewing <skkewing@yahoo.com>]

I have been waiting for Dr. Bob Bors to weigh in on this topic because, 
clearly, he is the expert on Crimson Passion! But since he hasn't, I'm going 
to copy paste his comments regarding this question from some time ago.

"Because Carmine jewel is a hybrid between an improved Mongolian (lousy
flavour and a bush) and a sour cherry tree variety (Northstar, good flavor
but a small tree) you are likely to get wide variation in the seedlings.
You could get all sort of combinations due to recombination of genes. Based
on our own selfed seedlings I'd guess that 75% will be of acceptable fruit
quality but there can be wide differences in plant size and productivity." 
 
Sarah 


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 From: Matt Demmon <mdemmon@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:34:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nafex] any thoughts on trueness to seed of Crimson Passion
 
I grew some as well. They seemed to germinate pretty good. They looked
like sour cherry plants. Can't comment on the fruit because they never
got that far. They got lost once I planted them outside.

-matt

On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Grover Barnett
<scionmechanic@optonline.net> wrote:
> I am growing Crimson Passion and Carmine Jewel bush cherries, got them
> from St Lawrence Nursery five years ago.
> Over the years I read several posts that the seeds of CP and CJ were non
> viable. These bush cherries make nice pies
> and are good eating  from the bush. They don't all ripen at once and CJ
> is a week earlier ripening than CP.
> The pits  I washed in a strainer and packed in moist sterilized potting
> soil and put in the fridge. The seeds started to germinate
> a few weeks ago and I picked  and planted the sprouts in my garden
> window. The germination rate is approaching 50%.
> I now have a few dozen seedlings up to 6". I f you or other Nafexers
> have a south window and would like to try growing
> some seeds send an e-mail. It will take several plantings to find out
> the trueness to seed.
>
> Grover Barnett
> Long Island NY
>
> On 10/12/2012 11:31 PM, Jim Fruth wrote:
>> The seed I received of those two didn't germinate.  I hope your's will do
>> better.
>>
>> Jim Fruth
>> Pequot Lakes, MN
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 From the travels of Charles Gibb and Dr. Budd.
 See
 http://archive.org/details/cihm_64289

 Mostly of historical interest now, but throws light on the Russian
 climate.

 Doug Woodard
 St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada