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["Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>]

I might use raw Aromatnaya diced smallish in a fruit salad, maybe a salsa -
but not out of hand as food! I've heard tales that it's tolerable dead ripe,
but I also hear tales of werewolves and aliens, so I'm not taking it on
faith.

~ Stephen

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[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Matt Demmon
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [nafex] hardy quinces?

Sorry, I should have said. It is an Aromatnaya. You *could* eat it raw, but
you might prefer to eat something else instead. ;) I suppose it is better
raw than other quinces, but still not really a 'dessert' fruit.

-matt
z5 se MI

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:25 AM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com> wrote:

> Matt, do you know what variety you have?  I guess I never realized 
> there were quinces that could be eaten out of hand.
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:51 AM, Matt Demmon <mdemmon@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It seems like some people get flowers early, others not. Mine 
> > bloomed the year after planting, no fruit, but has had blooms and 
> > modest amounts of fruit every year since. It's the only tree fruit 
> > that we have here this year. Bloomed about 3-4 weeks after pear. 
> > Definitely self-fertile. Also, mine is one of our fastest growing 
> > fruit trees, it was planted in 2008
> and
> > has grown 2-3 feet every year. It's probably 12 feet high now.
> >
> > Fruit tastes all right. I wouldn't eat it raw. And I don't have any 
> > other quinces to compare it to. But it's hard, tart, and 'aromatic' 
> > as advertised. I made a batch of applesauce with one quince, and it 
> > was
> quite
> > good.
> >
> > As far as hardiness, we're in z5 but we have had lows of -24 since 
> > it was planted, and no sign of damage.
> >
> > -matt
> > z5 se MI
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 6:06 PM, <rmelrose@danvillevt.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Could be winter killing of the flower buds Jay. More likely it is 
> >> just
> not
> >> mature enough. Certainly it is not unusual for pears (some pears, 
> >> by no means all) to take 10 years to flower. I have a Comice (which 
> >> should not grow here at all probably) which has grown steadily 
> >> without dieback now
> for
> >> 15 years and this year it had its first flower cluster. Just one! 
> >> High
> on
> >> the tree, which is also not typical for pears in my (limited)
> experience.
> >> No
> >> fruit, but it was a bad year anyway. I live in hope.
> >>
> >> Look to see if the quince has any dead flower buds in early Spring, 
> >> my guess is you will have to wait a while longer.
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> On 11 Sep, Jay Cutts wrote:
> >> > I have Aromatnaya. It's over 10 years old. I've never seen a 
> >> > flower on it, let alone fruit. Does anyone have any idea how this
could happen?
> >> > Shouldn't there at least be flowers, even if they are killed by
frost?
> >> > I'm at 7000 ft in New Mexicol
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Jay
> >> >
> >> > Jay Cutts
> >> > Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
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> >> > Prep Book (2013)
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> >> > 10 am to 10 pm Mt Time, 7 days
> >> >
> >> > On 9/11/2012 1:26 PM, rmelrose@danvilleVT.net wrote:
> >> >>> Anyone have any experience growing aromatnaya or some of the 
> >> >>> other
> >> hardy
> >> >>> russian quinces in zone 4?  I'd like to make sure they're worth 
> >> >>> a
> try
> >> in
> >> >>> our area.  If anyone has any recommendations on varieties to 
> >> >>> trial
> or
> >> >>> for sources that would be great.  I note that raintree and some 
> >> >>> of
> the
> >> >>> other standard mail order nurseries carry some of them, but are
> there
> >> >>> other economical bareroot sources?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>> Anton Ptak
> >> >>> zone 4a w. wisconsin
> >> >> Here's what I have experienced Anton.
> >> >>
> >> >> Northern Vermont -- zone 4a now but previously 3b -- I have 
> >> >> tried:-
> >> >>
> >> >> Aromatnaya (1999) It is rather heavily shaded much of the day, 
> >> >> but
> also
> >> >> protected. Has grown slowly and is now about six feet high, no
> flowers
> >> >> after nearly 10 years and several die back episodes.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kaunching (2003) Full sun with a wall to the North. Grew well 
> >> >> for
> >> several
> >> >> years and then died for no obvious reason, most likely cold damage.
> >> >>
> >> >> Krimskaya (2004) This is in the best position, very sunny and 
> >> >> close
> to a
> >> >> wall on the SE side of the house. Has produced heavily for 
> >> >> several years. No fruit this year but then I have essentially no 
> >> >> apples and
> few
> >> >> pears either after a disastrous Spring freeze. The fruit is 
> >> >> small,
> not
> >> >> even big by apple standards, but definitely tastes of quince.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kurganskaya (2003) Decent position with full sun and protection 
> >> >> to
> >> North,
> >> >> has grown well and flowered heavily for three years but only set 
> >> >> one
> >> quince
> >> >> so far which did not make it to maturity. Currently about 9 feet
> tall,
> >> >> largest of the quinces here.
> >> >>
> >> >> Orange (2003) Behind the same wall as Kurganskaya. Slowly 
> >> >> declined
> over
> >> >> several years and finally died.
> >> >>
> >> >> Smyrna (1999) Died quickly.
> >> >>
> >> >> Tashkent (2003) Maybe a bit exposed, but sunny position. Has
> struggled
> >> >> mightily and is still about two feet tall after nearly ten years.
> >> >>
> >> >> It looks as though the Japanese beetles are out of control near 
> >> >> the Krimskaya -- which is definitely the most successful quince 
> >> >> -- I
> have to
> >> >> work out what to do with them. I plan to plant a couple more, 
> >> >> also have grown some seedlings.
> >> >>
> >> >> Don't know of any sources other than the somewhat expensive NW
> >> nurseries.
> >> >>
> >> >> Richard
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