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[Anton Callaway <marillen@earthlink.net>]

Michele,

Aromatnaya is supposed to be somewhat fireblight resistant.  My tree was 
killed by fireblight last year in an epiphytotic, but a co-worker's tree is 
still alive in the same region of the U.S.

Lisle's Special appears to have some durable fireblight resistance.  My tree 
has never shown significant blight in the last seven years.  It does still 
get considerable quince rust and it's major flaw is that it has no aroma.  
The main reason I wanted quinces was for that heavenly aroma!

I seem to recall that Lisle's Special originated in Ohio.

Anton

-----Original Message-----
>From: Michele Stanton <6ducks@gmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 12, 2012 1:24 PM
>To: 'nafex mailing list at ibiblio' <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Subject: Re: [nafex] hardy quinces and fireblight?
>
>For anyone who's been growing quinces, do you have cultivars that appear to
>have  some fireblight resistance?
>I'd love one, but fireblight is a big issue in SW Ohio (z6)
>Michele
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of mIEKAL aND
>Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 7:26 AM
>To: nafex mailing list at ibiblio
>Subject: Re: [nafex] hardy quinces?
>
>Matt, do you know what variety you have?  I guess I never realized there
>were quinces that could be eaten out of hand.
>
>On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:51 AM, Matt Demmon <mdemmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It seems like some people get flowers early, others not. Mine bloomed 
>> the year after planting, no fruit, but has had blooms and modest 
>> amounts of fruit every year since. It's the only tree fruit that we 
>> have here this year. Bloomed about 3-4 weeks after pear. Definitely 
>> self-fertile. Also, mine is one of our fastest growing fruit trees, it 
>> was planted in 2008 and has grown 2-3 feet every year. It's probably 12
>feet high now.
>>
>> Fruit tastes all right. I wouldn't eat it raw. And I don't have any 
>> other quinces to compare it to. But it's hard, tart, and 'aromatic' as 
>> advertised. I made a batch of applesauce with one quince, and it was 
>> quite good.
>>
>> As far as hardiness, we're in z5 but we have had lows of -24 since it 
>> was planted, and no sign of damage.
>>
>> -matt
>> z5 se MI
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 6:06 PM, <rmelrose@danvillevt.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Could be winter killing of the flower buds Jay. More likely it is 
>>> just not mature enough. Certainly it is not unusual for pears (some 
>>> pears, by no means all) to take 10 years to flower. I have a Comice 
>>> (which should not grow here at all probably) which has grown steadily 
>>> without dieback now for
>>> 15 years and this year it had its first flower cluster. Just one! 
>>> High on the tree, which is also not typical for pears in my (limited)
>experience.
>>> No
>>> fruit, but it was a bad year anyway. I live in hope.
>>>
>>> Look to see if the quince has any dead flower buds in early Spring, 
>>> my guess is you will have to wait a while longer.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On 11 Sep, Jay Cutts wrote:
>>> > I have Aromatnaya. It's over 10 years old. I've never seen a flower 
>>> > on it, let alone fruit. Does anyone have any idea how this could
>happen?
>>> > Shouldn't there at least be flowers, even if they are killed by frost?
>>> > I'm at 7000 ft in New Mexicol
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Jay
>>> >
>>> > Jay Cutts
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>>> >
>>> > On 9/11/2012 1:26 PM, rmelrose@danvilleVT.net wrote:
>>> >>> Anyone have any experience growing aromatnaya or some of the 
>>> >>> other
>>> hardy
>>> >>> russian quinces in zone 4?  I'd like to make sure they're worth a 
>>> >>> try
>>> in
>>> >>> our area.  If anyone has any recommendations on varieties to 
>>> >>> trial or for sources that would be great.  I note that raintree 
>>> >>> and some of the other standard mail order nurseries carry some of 
>>> >>> them, but are there other economical bareroot sources?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Anton Ptak
>>> >>> zone 4a w. wisconsin
>>> >> Here's what I have experienced Anton.
>>> >>
>>> >> Northern Vermont -- zone 4a now but previously 3b -- I have 
>>> >> tried:-
>>> >>
>>> >> Aromatnaya (1999) It is rather heavily shaded much of the day, but 
>>> >> also protected. Has grown slowly and is now about six feet high, 
>>> >> no flowers after nearly 10 years and several die back episodes.
>>> >>
>>> >> Kaunching (2003) Full sun with a wall to the North. Grew well for
>>> several
>>> >> years and then died for no obvious reason, most likely cold damage.
>>> >>
>>> >> Krimskaya (2004) This is in the best position, very sunny and 
>>> >> close to a wall on the SE side of the house. Has produced heavily 
>>> >> for several years. No fruit this year but then I have essentially 
>>> >> no apples and few pears either after a disastrous Spring freeze. 
>>> >> The fruit is small, not even big by apple standards, but definitely
>tastes of quince.
>>> >>
>>> >> Kurganskaya (2003) Decent position with full sun and protection to
>>> North,
>>> >> has grown well and flowered heavily for three years but only set 
>>> >> one
>>> quince
>>> >> so far which did not make it to maturity. Currently about 9 feet 
>>> >> tall, largest of the quinces here.
>>> >>
>>> >> Orange (2003) Behind the same wall as Kurganskaya. Slowly declined 
>>> >> over several years and finally died.
>>> >>
>>> >> Smyrna (1999) Died quickly.
>>> >>
>>> >> Tashkent (2003) Maybe a bit exposed, but sunny position. Has 
>>> >> struggled mightily and is still about two feet tall after nearly ten
>years.
>>> >>
>>> >> It looks as though the Japanese beetles are out of control near 
>>> >> the Krimskaya -- which is definitely the most successful quince -- 
>>> >> I have to work out what to do with them. I plan to plant a couple 
>>> >> more, also have grown some seedlings.
>>> >>
>>> >> Don't know of any sources other than the somewhat expensive NW
>>> nurseries.
>>> >>
>>> >> Richard
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