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  • From: mIEKAL aND <>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Elderberry Workshop & new products & Varieies
  • Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 21:36:43 -0500

I'm pretty sure they will be hardy to z4a, they are selections from
sambucus canadensis..

Sorry for the confusion. In the presentation the guys was saying that
90% of the juice, syrup, tinctures & such sold in the US are all being
imported from europe. Not sure what is planted over there. Perhaps
that means that products are primarily sambucus nigra but he didn't go
into that.


On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Dan Nave <> wrote:
> Do you think that these varieties will be hardy in zone 4a?  They sound
> pretty attractive.
> Not sure what you meant by your last paragraph below.  Are you saying that
> they are derived mostly
> from European stock?
> Dan
> On 5/1/2011 7:02 AM, mIEKAL aND wrote:
>> I saw this guy speak a couple months ago&  his presentation&  what he
>> is attempting is pretty impressive.  The two new varieties that they
>> are distributing 'Bob Gordon'&  "Wyldewood" look to be good additions
>> to the elderberry options.  He showed photos of the fruit production
>> on these new varieties&  the sprays of flowers/fruit were 2-3 times
>> larger than what I'm used to with Adams/Nova/John.  I was impressed
>> enough that I bought a couple bundles of cuttings of each&  have them
>> potted up in the greenhouse.
>> I was also delighted that he emphasized that these new varieties are
>> open-source&  there would be no attempt to restrict their use.  I
>> don't know of any patented elderberry varieties so maybe this is not
>> an issue.
>> The biggest takeaway from the presentation was that he cuts back all
>> his elderberries every winter&  has greatly increased production.
>> Gets rid of old unproductive wood&  it rejuvenates the crowns.  He
>> showed some numbers&  the results noticeably higher.  I hadn't
>> realized how easy they propagate from cuttings, I cut back a couple
>> bushes as an experiment&  I quickly generated a couple hundred
>> cuttings..
>> One last point from the presentation that caught my attention is that
>> he said 90% of all elderberry project was imported from Europe&  was a
>> big impetus from his formation of the elderberry co-op in Missouri.
>> ~mIEKAL
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Lon J. Rombough<>  
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