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["Bob Hartman" <hartmansfruit@msn.com>]

Nick Botner's 2010 list has all of those that Jim listed in his last post 
except for the Douglas Wormless.

Bob
Western Washington

-----Original Message----- 
From: jelie@new.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:47 AM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Cc: Alan Haigh
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Bugs-don't hug apples

Hey Alan,

I went through some files and found a few more varieties of apples that are 
considered as having some insect resistance, if only because their skin is 
so tough.

Co-op 17 (one of the parents of Goldrush)
Douglas Wormless
Arkansas Black
Black Oxford
Redfield
Rockingham Red
Black Twig

PRI's Co-op 17 and maybe, the Douglas Wormless, would in all likelihood 
would be more reliably insect resistant. The others are mentioned as showing 
some insect resistance but of course, there is no data to substantiate these 
claims (that I have seen).

Quite a few varieties of apples can be found by just surfing the net but if 
you want to save yourself some surfing these two would be the best 
collections to check:

1. Nick Botner, Spearheart Orchards (pdf file of his extensive catalog can 
be found online)

http://www.slant.com/orchard/Botner%202009%20List.PDF

2. The USDA ARS/GRIN -

http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/splist.pl?7215

Please let us know if you find them.

Jim Elie
Green Bay, WI
zone 4/5


---- Alan Haigh <alandhaigh@gmail.com> wrote:
> Scott, when do those funny french sounding apples ripen and how do you 
> like
> them?  I love that you explore so many unusual varieties, by-the-way.
>
> Anyone ever try COOP 17?
>
> Anyone know where I can get wood or trees of any of the above apples.  I
> really want to explore this subject in the field.
>
> > I am very interested in bug-resistant apples.  Obviously there is no 
> > such
> thing as a bug-proof apple but I don't do a whole lot of spraying and 
> every
> year I appreciate my few varieties with minimal damage more and more. 
> This
> year along with Goldrush, Winesap and Fuji I would add the old obscure
> varieties Abbondanza, Pigeonnet Rouge, and Rambour d'Hiver to the minimal
> bug-damage list.  All of these apples are hard, and all but P-R are late.
>  So the hard & late is clearly a help, and on the other side some of my 
> soft
> varieties were horribly damaged.  What I would really like is an apple I
> could hit with a couple Surround sprays in the spring, maybe hang some CM
> confusion lures in May, and then get a harvest with most of the apples
> bug-free.
> >
> > Scott

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