| I have not yet succeeded in fruiting anything but Jonathan (shade, deer, etc.) but I have to put in a word for Ashmeads Kernal, which I can buy locally. True, it is a very small apple, but the guy I buy it from seems to have some fruit (on his one tree) every year. And it ROCKS as a high-flavored apple. It has very high sugar and very high acid, it's crunchy, and the apple flavor is pretty decent. It's my family's favorite apple, and we go to a lot of trouble to buy it each year.
I've been consistently disappointed by locally grown Cox apples. They are fine, but nothing super exciting. I keep trying to get a hold of Karmijn apples. The deer seem not to want the tree I planted this year to survive. And they already ate the one fruit that set on a branch I grafted years ago. So, I guess the deer like it. (They like my Ashmeads kernel, too. I have a large branch grafted to a native crab, and it sets fruit most years, but the deer get all the fruit well before it ripens. No, there isn't any good way to fence the deer out.)
Ginda eastern MA, zone 6 who's had an even more frustrating year in the garden than most. Between deer, insect pests, chipmunks, rain during flowing, and drought during midseason, I'll be lucky to get a handful of tomatoes and a couple of Jonathan apples this year. I'm not even getting many raspberries - the drought has reduced the yield and a hungry blue jay has discovered the crop.) On Jul 18, 2010, at 1:01 AM, Richard J. Ossolinski wrote: Welcome, Dave, Cajoled by my favorite rabbit into a response for you, here is my humble (and very subjective) offering. This is not advice, mind you, but rather a sharing of my observations/experiences/perceptions, all of which probably should be tempered by the realization that I am 3,000 miles east of you!
I have been growing the original Belle de Boskoop (as opposed to the red cultivar) for nigh onto 20 years, which in itself is testament to how highly I regard it, especially given that in the same time frame I have trialed and culled at least a hundred varieties whose virtues others have fervently extolled, but which here and to me failed to manifest qualities that would have made them worthy of permanent places in my orchard. So yes, I like Belle de Boskoop and am intrigued that in some years it seems to taste as if pre seasoned with cinnamon. But while I feel that it is better than hundreds of other varieties, it isn't on my list of favorites. I like Ashmead's, but it is not reliable here (rarely ripens) and doesn't size. Same with E. Spitz, which tends to biennial bearing here. However, consistently in contention for top honors, especially when it comes to high acid and high sugar (you did say you're a fan of big flavor:-) are Cox's Orange Pippin and Karmijn de Sonnaville, with Karmijn ripening a bit later (late October here) and usually being even more intense in flavor. And even though it's a triploid and not the most grower friendly tree, I would highly recommend it for your consideration, and guess that it would ripen for you in early October. Although Cox's Orange is a stellar variety here, I hesitate to recommend it, because it's quite fussy about where it will do well, and Spokane doesn't seem to share England's climate. Holstein, however, (an open pollinated seedling of Cox's Orange) despite its tendency toward biennial bearing here, is much easier to grow well and renders fruit which in most years is every bit as excellent as Cox's Orange. Queen Cox, on the other hand, has been a huge disappointment for me and will be top worked next spring if this year's fruit proves as insipid as it's been for the past four years.
Bottom line recommendation? Karmijn! If it performs there the way it performs here, it'll knock your socks off! I'm pretty sure Raintree has it.
Wishing you well and hoping you'll keep us posted, Richard (aka Ozzie [thanks, Fluff!]) Gouldsboro, Maine Zone 5
On Jul 16, 2010, at 3:54 PM, fuwa fuwa usagi wrote: I think my dear friend Ozzie is our resident Belle de Boskoop(I threw the title up to get his attention) expert and you already heard from the ever wonderous, lovable, and knowledgeable Edwardo on Greensleeves...
cheers,
the fluffy one
P.S. welcome to NAFEX and you will learn all the cute pet
names we have for one another over time...LOL
Hi,
I joined this organization in hopes someone has experience with several varieties of apples in the drier country of eastern WA or Oregon. I'm in Spokane, on the north side of town and am looking to get first fruits from Ashmead's Kernel and Queen Cox apple trees this fall.
I am considering planting Belle de Boskoop (red cultivar that comes by way of Raintree Nursery, Morton, WA) and possibly Greensleeves.
Have never tasted Ashmead's nor Cox O.P. or the Queen Cox clone, but am a fan of big flavor. Hence the interest in BdB.
Anyone out there with Belle de Boskoop or Greensleeves in this region with cold winters and hot summers? I want to verify that both are mid-season bloomers and that BdB ripens by about 21st October in this region. We can have frost by then, and some writers indicate BdB does well with fruit on the tree for some frosts.
Comments or suggestions?
Thank you,
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