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  • From: Douglas Woodard <dwoodard@becon.org>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Elders
  • Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 04:27:56 -0400

A Canadian source for S. canadensis is

http://www.cornhillnursery.com

Service is good, but order early.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada



jelie@new.rr.com wrote:
Caren, There are some nice varieties of elders out there. The European varieties (sambucus nigra) and the American varieties (sambucus nigra var. canadensis) both have some outstanding cultivars. I would think that both would be readily available to you in QC.
Some American varieties: Nova, Johns, Adam, and York
The European varieties are more numerous and varied: Goldbeere (gold colored
fruit, Samdal (of Danish origin), Korsor, Alesso, Black Beauty (dark leaves
with typical structure, pink flowers), Black Lace(dark lacey foliage with
pink flowers), Laciniata (Green lacey leaved), variegated, and Haschberg.

Here is a pdf file on elderberries from New York state:

http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/pubs/fls/OCRPDF/91.pdf

I am in the Green Bay, Wisconsin area which is on the border for zones 4 and
5. So far, the only problems I have had with them are a few cane borers.
Mine are quite productive. My wife and I haven't used the flowers for
anything but love the berries for syrup and jelly. Propagation by cuttings
in the spring has been pretty easy.

Best of luck,

Jim Elie
Green Bay WI
zone 4/5

---- Caren Kirk <quirky@videotron.ca> wrote:
I just returned from a trip back home to the UK where I totally overdosed on
Elderflower EVERYTHING (cordial, syrup, even eldeerflower cheesecake). I
literally couldn't get enough, everywhere we went someone was getting me to
taste their homemade products.

I've always been a fan of elderberry juice, so now I am convinced that I want
to try planting them here to see if I can reap the benefits of both the
flowers and the berries.

I thought I had an elder growing wild in the wet area at the back of my lot, which I
had never really investigated much . It certainly has very similar flowers, however
their scent seems nothing like that delicious fragrance of the flowers I've been
enjoying in the UK. However I may have missed their peak at the beginning of the
season. The shrub is about 6 to 7ft very "leggy" and growing in a very wet
site under other taller trees. Not sure if it bears black berries but if so these don't
seem to be very popular with the birds.

Does anybody have experience with elders for their flowers or berries? Could
you help me in identifying my plant? Could anyone suggest which elders might
be good for flower and fruit production for zone 3/ 4 (for example is
Sambucus Canadiensis OK)?

Any advice gratefully appreciated.

Caren Kirk
St. Jerome, QC




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