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["Kieran and/or Donna" <holycow@frontiernet.net>]

I've picked up apples several summers from a Liveland tree, 30+ years old, 
belongs to the son of the man who planted it there.  It's a pretty big tree, 
not huge I guess.  It crops annually, the apples are good sized and have 
good texture and flavor for summer apples.  They are nice raw, dried, and in 
pies.  I grafted a tree and it doesn't seem unduly bothered by rust, though 
more than some others like the Winesap.  (Hardy Cumberland appears immune to 
rust, and is a very nice apple.)   Donna