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  • From: "loneroc" <loneroc@countryspeed.com>
  • To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Availability of grafting wood from governmentrepositories
  • Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:20:31 -0500

Howdy all,
 
I've gotten material from Corvallis, too.  My credentials were that I asked politely for it via e-mail.  I am, frankly, stunned that a country which prides itself on its egalitarianism...and politeness, would shift to such an interpretation.
 
This issue seems directly connected with the North AmericanFEX mission;  how does the organization take a formal position and make our concerns known to the Canadian government?
 
Signed...a government bureaucrat who tries his hardest to provide service to all the taxpayers...who pay his salary.
 
Steve H. Lone Rock, WI  USDA zone 3-4
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Availability of grafting wood from governmentrepositories

I'm down here in the US, and I just requested some strawberry germplasm from Corvallis, and I didn't need any particular credentials. Actually, first I corrected some errors they had in their catalog, since they had the ploidy wrong for a few accessions. This may have impressed them, I don't know. They thanked me for my corrections. Also, I made sure that these strawberries were available nowhere else. (At least, nowhere googleable.) I do have plans for a very specific breeding program, which I outlined. I'll let y'all know if anything comes of it.

Of course, different countries have different policies, so this doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Canada.

Melissa

--- On Wed, 3/31/10, david.maxwell@dal.ca <david.maxwell@dal.ca> wrote:

From: david.maxwell@dal.ca <david.maxwell@dal.ca>
Subject: [NAFEX] Availability of grafting wood from government repositories
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 7:55 PM

I have recently encountered an issue with the provision of grafting wood from the Canadian Germplasm Repository.  They have determined that I am neither a "bona fide researcher nor a breeder", and hence am not entitled to obtain grafting wood from the Repository (the equivalent of the National Plant Germplasm System in the States).  Obviously this determination applies to virtually all the Canadian NAFEX members, (other than the staff of the dwindling number of govt research stations and multinational agribusiness employees.)  I have registered my objection to this interpretation, which represents a substantial change from the practice to date.  But to bolster my argument I need information from other jurisdictions.  Am I correct in my belief that ordinary citizens of the US can request material from the various repositories maintained by the NPGS?  And that my cousins in the UK can get wood from Brogdale or Long Ashton? And so on for Holland, France, India, etc.?  Note that the issue here has nothing to do with disease transmission, quarantine, prohibition of importation of specfic material into specific states, etc.  Rather it hinges specifically on the perceived mandate of the Repository, which is restricted to "bona fide researchers".  And amateur growers are not, in their eyes.  (I note that the NPGS also state that "Germplasm is available in small quantities for research purposes"  ; obviously if my belief that people outside academic centres and government labs can nevertheless access materials in the States is correct, the crux of the issue hinges on the definition of a "researcher". (I think NAFEX members, and all the train of amateur fruit growers who preceded us have done far more legitimate real world research than all the white coated lab types.)



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