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["Lori Rizzo" <larizzo@charter.net>]

Well, there are plenty of apples & cherry trees in Ft. Collins – and, after living there, saw the wind and the lack of water as the major detractors.  In fact, as soon as I finished up at CSU in ‘85, I packed up and went East to find better planting ground – got sick of the prickly pear semi-arid state of things. I will admit, I sometimes miss the dry winds that came across the landscape in the summer evenings.  On the other side, Ogden UT, where my father was raised, was well-known as a fruit growing area, and I think the elevation was somewhat high there.

 

Lori Rizzo, RN BSN MBA

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Maryville, TN

larizzo@charter.net

 

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From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Moore
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:24 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] high altitude apple? even crazier apricot idea?

 

Apricots and apples both originated in the same mountains in Central Asia. I wouldn't worry too much about your elevation. I would however, plant a wind break/ sun trap to the north of them if you have the space. If you have the elevation, you might consider putting in some swales to help with the water situation.

 

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From: tic-toc <shiftensands@centurytel.net>
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:53:53 AM
Subject: [NAFEX] high altitude apple? even crazier apricot idea?

Nafex folks!

New subscriber here. I'm much better in the woods (Love mushroom hunting) than anything electrical. But need advice so will try this.

 

Grew up in a Great central Illinois woods. Spent most adulthood at ski area Colorado. Moved 10 years ago to Colorado foothills, which while not much lower in elevation, has wider biodiversity. Ponderosa pine, aspen, rosehip rose, poentilla, and a native currant are predominate plants. Coyotes, ravens, & possibly turkey vultures seem to outnumber us! This area famous for nasty "wyoming" winter winds. Local joke is we never know the seasonal high gust---as machines break around 109 to 111. I would venture Colorado foothills MUCH dryer than even the locals realize. Gets 12-16 inches of moisture all year. Majority of it here comes during wet spring. Daily spring snow/rain mix from late March thru first week of June.  On the other hand... have wonderful late fall---daytime warmer than real Colorado mountains west of us.

 

Last year found apple/crab apple tree at 8370 altitude on Forest Service land! Its protected by rock face, and seasonal creek right below it. All sorts of local thoughts as to whether a "saddle tramp tree", or maybe a ccc camp worker, or early settler put it there.

 

So,... this has me dreaming of trying apples on protected part of homesite?!? Say above my seasonal pond, wind shaded by house above? Maybe high altitude sun too intense, needs partial pine shade?

 WHAT DO YOU FOLKS THINK?

Done all sorts of internet searches... found interesting Canadian plains up to zone 2 hardy apple varieties---but can not find comparable high altitude example. What IS the highest recorded fruit trees... anyone track this?

 

Then also... read wonderful book, Greg Mortenson's "Three Cups of Tea". He mentions irrigated apricots that are at high altitude, windy, nasty winter, alkaline Pakistan. Though think spring differant and summer daytime hotter than here. My internet searching finds nothing available comparable---"china' or "manchurian" are not even close to central asia variety? again, WHAT DO YOU FOLKS THINK?

 

THANKS for taking time for my dreaming,

a foothills druid,

    jody 

 

p.s. Not sure understand this site. Can NOT find archives or web page of past discussions?