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> I couldn't disagree more! Selective breeding is essentially making
> use of a >natural process to our benefit. (Usually.) Transgenics has
> two major flaws: It >is moving genes from animals, fungi and viruses
> into plant material which could >never have gotten those genes in a
> natural manner.
Many transgenic plants are made using the
bacterium Agrobacterium
tumefaciens, which makes its living inserting its DNA into the genomes
of various plants. Nonetheless, it is used to make transgenics that
would not have existed without the intervention of the researcher. I
understand that many people are concerned about introducing genes from
one organism into another...personally, I am not. It is a judgenment
call, and on that point, I am content to disagree.
> It also puts those genes in >a separate package that is not
> integrated into the >plants' chromosomes and is >subject to migrate
> into cells in the intestinal >tract of anything that eats >those
> plants.
This is a misunderstanding of transgenics. The introduced genes are
in fact integrated directly into a chromosome, usually in the nucleus,
but sometimes in the
chloroplast. They replicate and segregate right
along with the rest of the DNA. This is the only way introduced
genetic material can be maintained in the plant. Anything not
integrated into a chromosome is lost. AFAIK, the introduced genes are
no more likely to migrate into cells in the intestinal tract than any
other gene we eat. If you can point me to evidence that indicates
otherwise, I'd be very interested, especially in the mechanism.
Documentation of horizontal gene transfer from ingested food would be
a huge story in the field of genetics and evolution, but I've heard
nothing of it.
> I would say transgenics is a disaster waiting to happen, except
> several rather >major disasters have already happened. There are
> very sound scientific reasons >as well as cultural ones for
such
> plants to have been banned in Europe.
"Major disaster" is hyperbole IMHO...how many people have died from
eating transgenic food compared to the number of deaths from
contaminated spinach and peanuts and other instances of food
poisoning? I agree that transgenic technology has its own set of
problems, just like any other technology. Unfortunately, the loudest
protests often do their own cause a disservice when they are based on
misinformation.
Alex
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>>> From: Kevin Moore <
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>>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Grapple
>>> To: North American Fruit Explorers <
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>>> It sounds really horrible! I wonder who's brainchild that was. I
>>> remember tasting >one of the first GM tomatoes
that was touted as
>>> the future because it had this >really long shelf life. It tasted
>>> like gasoline! I still don't understand what is >so wrong with our
>>> natural produce that "they" keep wanting to mess with it.
>> Does grafting and countless generations of selective breeding not
>> count as "messing with it"? Most of the fruit trees we grow are not
>> really "natural"... Transgenic technology is just another tool to
>> introduce new characteristics to the plants.
Alex
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