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  • From: "Tim Inman" <Tim@historicinteriors.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 66, Issue 64
  • Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:00:13 -0500

Here's what I'd do: Plant the seed and let it grow to first fruit. If you win, you win. If you don't get a good plum (likely), at least you will have a good plum rootstock growing just exactly where you'd like to have a tree. Learn how to do a little grafting and patch something known to be good onto the rootstock. This gives you at least two chances of winning. My great grandfather was famous for doing this at our farm.

Fiddling with fruit for fun is a different game than trying to raise an orchard crop for money, so we can get away with little experiments like this. I'd give it a try!

Tim Inman
Randolph, Iowa

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1. Re: Charcoal in Soil (and Terra Preta) (jas39a@earthlink.net)
2. Re: squirrels (Jwlehman@aol.com)
3. Re: squirrels (Brungardt, Sam)
4. Re: squirrels as food (Hilborn.E@epamail.epa.gov)
5. death to squirrels (Ernest Plutko)
6. Plum Question (Robert C. Mullins)
7. Re: Plum Question (Steve)
8. Re: Plum Question (Lon J. Rombough)


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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:34:56 EDT
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Subject: Re: [NAFEX] squirrels
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In a message dated 7/31/2008 12:24:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ernestplutko@wiktel.com writes:

Fried gray squirrels are good to eat. If they are big boil them,
bread and fry. Young squirrels are tender. Look at them as a
resource. When I lived in West Virginia most people ate them durimg
hunting season.

Fired squirrel with squirrel gravy & biscuits......you just can't eat better!
Except maybe for snapping turtle.



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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:12:12 -0500
From: "Brungardt, Sam" <Sam.Brungardt@state.mn.us>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] squirrels
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I agree; haven't had fried squirrel with squirrel gravy and biscuits nor
snapping turtle since I was a kid in Kansas. They rank right up there
with fried chicken giblets (livers, hearts, gizzards and lungs) with
biscuits and onion gravy.

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In a message dated 7/31/2008 12:24:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ernestplutko@wiktel.com writes:



Fried gray squirrels are good to eat. If they are big
boil them,
bread and fry. Young squirrels are tender. Look at them
as a
resource. When I lived in West Virginia most people ate
them durimg
hunting season.



Fired squirrel with squirrel gravy & biscuits......you just
can't eat better! Except maybe for snapping turtle.



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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:01:13 -0400
From: Hilborn.E@epamail.epa.gov
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] squirrels as food
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These are all good pieces of information now that food prices are going
through the roof.

I also understand that grey squirrels are a huge menace in the UK.
Maybe a new food trend could be encouraged there to reduce grey squirrel
populations...

Chatter and chips?

But it looks as if I am not the first to think of this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/may/11/recipes.foodanddrink

Betsy Hilborn
in NC 7a where there are plenty of grey squirrels



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:37:17 -0500
From: "Ernest Plutko" <ernestplutko@wiktel.com>
Subject: [NAFEX] death to squirrels
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Gray squirrels are a horrible pest in your yard or orchard. They are
easily killed by using a wire live trap with peanut butter or corn or
bread as bait. Don't use a .22 to kill trapped squirrels because you
will get blood on trap or you will hit a wire with bullet and break
it. Take trap with squirrel in it and submerge in tub of water to
drown pest. Then eat squirrel. A vertical rat on a tree doesn't
work well. Don't talk about pest control because do-gooder neighbors
will be outraged.



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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:14:22 -0500
From: "Robert C. Mullins" <mullins@gaelicmysts.com>
Subject: [NAFEX] Plum Question
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Tasted a plum, it was delicious, saved the seed. And now the big
question, if I plant it, will it grow true?


--
Robert C. Mullins M.S. IT
GaelicMysts Farms and Permaculture, Owner
Clarksville, Ar
Zone 8a
http://wildcraft.gaelicmysts.com



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:33:37 -0400
From: Steve <sdw12986@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum Question
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Robert C. Mullins wrote:
Tasted a plum, it was delicious, saved the seed. And now the big
question, if I plant it, will it grow true?

About the same chance as winning the lottery.
If the plum was a wild plum (unimproved by breeding or selection), then
the seed might produce a tree with very similar fruit. Since you say it
was delicious, I'm going to assume it was pretty far from a wild fruit.

Steve




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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:17:38 -0700
From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum Question
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Some European plums will come fairly true to seed. Green Gage types
have long been grown from seed in various places.
I've grown plums from seed and have gotten a good percentage of trees
that had decent quality fruit even if it wasn't the same as the parent.
The main defect is that a very high percentage of seedlings have
smaller fruit than the parent.
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at
http://www.bunchgrapes.com Winner of the Garden Writers Association
"Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
For all other things grape, http://www.vitisearch.com
A video about The Grape Grower :
http://cookingupastory.com/index.php/2008/04/18/the-grape-grower/
On Jul 31, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Steve wrote:

Robert C. Mullins wrote:
Tasted a plum, it was delicious, saved the seed. And now the big
question, if I plant it, will it grow true?

About the same chance as winning the lottery.
If the plum was a wild plum (unimproved by breeding or selection), then
the seed might produce a tree with very similar fruit. Since you say it
was delicious, I'm going to assume it was pretty far from a wild fruit.

Steve


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