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Re: [NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 65, Issue 62 WOODCHUCKS

From: "Tim Inman" <Tim@historicinteriors.com>
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Subject: Re: [NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 65, Issue 62 WOODCHUCKS
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:15:37 -0500

When we lived in Wisconsin, I raised some prize-winning cabbages one year. In the fall, just as they were ready to harvest, the woodchucks got to them first. Each morning it looked like the 'Chucks' had been in a pie-eating contest over my cabbages. They went down on them head-first and all the way to the root. Our Wisconsin DNR guy suggested dog hair as a repellant. As it happened, there was a dog groomer next to our offices, so I had her save dog hair clippings for me all winter. Next spring, I spread it in the cabbage rows and POW! No more woodchucks in my cabbages. It actually lasted all season long - and even though she had washed the dogs before she clipped them. I did some tilling, too. There was woodchuck 'evidence' all around my garden and my neighbors, but not in my cabbage rows. So, there's one man's report of his unscientific experience. I'd highly recommend dog hair - maybe even still attached to the dog!

Tim Inman
Randolph (the Feral Cat Empire) Iowa

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Today's Topics:

1. The war against woodchucks (Joe and Ellen Hecksel)
2. Re: The war against woodchucks (Karen Kellogg)
3. petunia question (Jerrydana5@aol.com)
4. Japanese Beetles - South West PA (John S)
5. Re: The war against woodchucks (Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu)
6. Re: petunia question (Lon J. Rombough)
7. membership/Pomona (Deb S)
8. Re: The war against woodchucks (mangodance)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:42:22 -0400
From: Joe and Ellen Hecksel <jhecksel@voyager.net>
Subject: [NAFEX] The war against woodchucks
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Hello all:

So far, no Japanese Beetles.

However, I am suffering from a plague of woodchucks!

They stripped the mulberry trees of their leaves. Few things are as sad
as seeing a promising graft stripped of leaves, and even worse, broken off.

We were on vacation for 8 days. We visited New Orleans (great rates on
rooms this time of year for some reason) and drove home via Mississippi,
Alabama, Ga, Tennessee, Kentucky and Ohio.

Half the garden was flattened. The Hubbard squash was reduced to leaf
stems. War was declared.

Mr. Internet was not much help. "First" all the internet experts
agreed, "start your control efforts in April or May at the latest." Drat!

I called my neighbor Kirk who is an avid trapper. He loaned me 6
Conibear traps. I already had two 160 Conibears. They are all deployed.

There are a few places that are not conducive to Conibear traps. We
have a new puppy so I don't want to use them close to the house. Also,
there are a few holes that are in HUGE Poison Ivy patches. So the one
live trap will also get a work-out.

Any advice on bait?

One neighbor lady claims that you can catch ANYTHING using marshmallows.
They certainly are cheap and delightful to munch on if you need
sustenance during the arduous task of lugging the enormous live trap
around. Mr Internet said to use the leaves of the plant they were
chowing down on. Too late to use squash leaves. Other suggestions were
apples or carrots. One source said to pre-bait the area to get them
hooked on those delicacies. That makes sense to me.

Any advice will be much appreciated. The quicker I can put a big dent
in their population the better my plants will recover.

-Joe

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:02:33 -0400
From: Karen Kellogg <garuda2@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] The war against woodchucks
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I think your best bet is to let that puppy grow up REAL quick!

I have hordes of woodchucks, and have read a lot--- I'd use cabbage
or other brassicas in the trap.
(None have ever gone into my live trap) .

I am seriously thinking about getting a dog. But then I have to put
in one of those underground electric dog fences.

Can't win.

I actually saw a trio of them 'frolicing' in my yard a while back.
Cute, but i still hate them.

Karen
in NW CT

On Jun 28, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Joe and Ellen Hecksel wrote:

Hello all:

So far, no Japanese Beetles.

However, I am suffering from a plague of woodchucks!

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:09:24 EDT
From: Jerrydana5@aol.com
Subject: [NAFEX] petunia question
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OK--my wave petunias I started from scratch are doing great. My question
is, do I still have to deadhead the blooms? I thought somewhere I had read you
didn't have to deadhead wave petunias. jerry in souther indiana

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:43:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: John S <swim_at_svc@yahoo.com>
Subject: [NAFEX] Japanese Beetles - South West PA
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Tuesday zero, Wednesday I counted 3, Thursday 6, Friday killed about 200.? Going after Juneberry and kiwi today, but most of them were after the Autumn olives.? Late in emerging, but apparently trying to make up for it.

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:49:52 -0500
From: "Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu" <Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] The war against woodchucks
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Marksmanship practice with a .22 loaded with LR
hollow-point bullets.
Or, an even higher-powered varmint rifle. Doc L
would have made an appropriate recommendation.

I'm still gunning for the one living in the brushpile
in the ditch by the pond - guess I need to put a
scope on my .22 or step up and smack him with the
.308; just seems like a bit of overkill.

Lucky

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:15:20 -0700
From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] petunia question
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Had two big (3 gallon plus) hanging pots with Wave petunias in them
last year and didn't deadhead them, and they kept going until frost.
In fact, the plants survived the winter, grew out again and right now
they are covered with blooms. The plants died back to the main stems,
but the thickest parts came through and sprouted vigorously once the
weather warmed. They are actually better looking than plants started
from seed.
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at
http://www.bunchgrapes.com Winner of the Garden Writers Association
"Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
For even more grape lessons, go to http://www.grapeschool.com
For all other things grape, http://www.vitisearch.com
A video about The Grape Grower :
http://cookingupastory.com/index.php/2008/04/18/the-grape-grower/
On Jun 28, 2008, at 7:09 PM, Jerrydana5@aol.com wrote:

OK--my wave petunias I started from scratch are doing great.? My
question is, do I still have to deadhead the blooms?? I thought
somewhere I had read you didn't have to deadhead wave petunias.? jerry
in souther indiana

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:54:07 -0400
From: "Deb S" <debs913@gmail.com>
Subject: [NAFEX] membership/Pomona
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I joined NAFEX awhile ago (just before the announcement that you could join
online). I haven't received a Pomona yet...anyone know if one has been
published recently? Thanks.

deb
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:12:05 -0400
From: mangodance <bmn@iglou.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] The war against woodchucks
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Joe and Ellen Hecksel wrote:

There are a few places that are not conducive to Conibear traps. We
have a new puppy so I don't want to use them close to the house. Also,
there are a few holes that are in HUGE Poison Ivy patches. So the one
live trap will also get a work-out.

You'll want to watch your puppy as well. I've both seen and heard about
dogs going after groundhogs all the way into the burrow and faring badly
as a groundhog will defend a burrow. Worst one was at a dog event where
a dog got its jugular bitten and died within seconds. Others required
surgery on paws and heads.

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Re: [NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 65, Issue 62 WOODCHUCKS, Tim Inman, 06/30/2008