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[Jacquelyn Kuehn <jakuehn@verizon.net>]

Looking at our young peach trees in bloom and thus a-buzz, I called my  
husband over. "Aren't those honeybees?" I asked.

We examined them closely, and realized they were, indeed, honeybees. We  
are delighted and thankful.

Jackie Kuehn
Western PA zone 5


On Apr 27, 2008, at 11:12 PM, nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote:

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>    1. Re: Jazz apple (Ginda Fisher)
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> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:39:38 -0400
> From: Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Jazz apple
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> On the plus side, perhaps their agreements with the growers also
> include rules about not harvesting under-ripe and such, so maybe they
> will keep the quality high.
>
> Ginda
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> On Apr 27, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Lon J. Rombough wrote:
>
> > I wonder how much control the company has over "Jazz"?  Sunworld
> > has bred their own grape varieties and even ones that have been
> > long out of patent are still under their control.  So much so they
> > are now starting to use DNA testing to find growers who have the
> > varieties without a Sunworld contract.
> > -Lon Rombough
> > Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at http://
> > www.bunchgrapes.com  Winner of the Garden Writers Association "Best
> > Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
> > For even more grape lessons, go to  http://www.grapeschool.com
> > For all other things grape,   http://www.vitisearch.com
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> > On Apr 27, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Amanda Emily wrote:
> >
> > Jazz apple is a "club variety" and is controlled by ENZA and has
> > grower
> > agreements before trees are allowed to be obtained and planted.
> >
> > http://www.goodfruit.com/issues.php?article=174&issue=61
> >
> > Unfortunately all of us will have to wait until the variety is no
> > longer
> > under patent before it can be obtained for backyard growers.
> >
> >
> > Amanda
> >
> >
> > Randall Burd wrote:
> > > Does anyone know if trees/scionwood of this variety is available
> > > anywhere?
> > >
> > > It is really quite good (and as its own website www.jazzapple.com
> > > <http://www.jazzapple.com>).
> > >
> > > [somehow there isn't a www.esopusspitzenberg.com
> > > <http://www.esopusspitzenberg.com>]
> > >
> > > Randy
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> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:38:25 EDT
> From: Jwlehman@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Honey Bees?
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> In a message dated 4/27/2008 1:59:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Docshiva@Docshiva.org writes:
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> > At my home in Sacramento, we?ve had fewer honeybees in recent years,  
> > but they
> > ?re in full buzz in the orange trees now.
>
> Do the orange orchardists rent bees? Are you seeing wild or rented  
> bees?
>
> Jerry
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> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:12:25 -0400
> From: Scott Smith <scott@cs.jhu.edu>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Sunworld patents
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> What legal protection is there for them after the patent expired?  The
> only thing I can see is if they find a plant older than the patent
> expiration date.
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> Scott
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> > I wonder how much control the company has over "Jazz"? Sunworld has
> > bred their own grape varieties and even ones that have been long out
> > of patent are still under their control. So much so they are now
> > starting to use DNA testing to find growers who have the varieties
> > without a Sunworld contract. -Lon Rombough
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