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["Martha L. Davis" <martha_davis@earthlink.net>]

Ed,

I think that initially I had no idea how late, late could be until I really 
looked at the info from England where I didn't have to take someone else's 
word for what was late (no one really defines it).  I think now that what I 
am interested in is probably the late part of mid bloom to late bloom.  I 
have been using golden delicious as a yardstick since it does survive the 
frosts and have enough time to ripen.  I am treading that line between too 
late to ripen and too early to bloom.  I have less heat units than I did away 
from the lake in the Chicago area.

Martha

-----Original Message-----
>From: Ed Fackler <ed.fackler@gmail.com>
>Sent: Mar 25, 2008 11:55 AM
>To: "Martha L. Davis" <martha_davis@earthlink.net>, North American Fruit 
>Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 62, Issue 51
>
>Martha:
>
>     Of those you list below as late bloomers, based on growing all these
>(and the ones on Sam's list) at Rocky for a number of years, only Stearns is
>late bloom and is no near as late as Ralls to break or bloom.
>
>     Of those commonly grown in commerce, only Rome and Golden are
>considered "late" bloom which is on the very end of Gala, Akane, Rubinette,
>Roxbury and Fiesta season.
>
>     Perhaps I don't know what is desired on this thread.
>
>Ed....S. Indiana, anxiously awaiting for spring...
>
>On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Martha L. Davis <martha_davis@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>> I have been researching late blooming apples for my location in high
>> elevation New Mexico.  We get such big swings between day and night
>> temperatures that early bloomers are likely to get frosted.  Sam's list is
>> very similar to ones that I have come up with. Please note that I haven't
>> been here long enough to test them here.  I may have more info after this
>> bloom season.  You might also consider Elstar, Porter, King of the Pippins,
>> Akane, Rubnette, Roxbury Russet, Smokehouse, Stearns & Fiesta.  I have
>> noticed some inconsistencies between the Brogdale site & the New Book of
>> Apples (England), versus Apples for the 21st Century (Oregon), versus Trees
>> of Antiquity Catalogs(Califonia) versus other sources.  The bulk of things
>> remains the same but some appear to be different perhaps less temperature
>> based and more daylength based?  Golden Delicious is successful here so I
>> have used that as a yardstick and I consider apples that bloom around the
>> same time or later that is assuming t
>>  hat bloom time info is even available for the particular apples.
>>
>> Some of Sam's list I have dropped because we have a short cool season and
>> ones like Arkansas Black probably won't ripen here.
>>
>>
>>
>> Martha Davis
>>
>>
>> Cc: Tom Burford <burford@msn.com>, Debbie Lienhart <
>> debbie@debbielienhart.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Seeking late blooming apple scion
>> Date: Mar 25, 2008 11:24 AM
>> I was intrigued by your message and so I did a quick check of internet
>> resources and these are some late-blooming apple cultivars according to
>> various sources.  It would be good to have some of the list members who 
>> have
>> experience with these cultivars comment on whether they really are late
>> blooming. -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, Minn.
>>
>> Arkansas Black
>> Bess Pool
>> Braeburn
>> Bramley's Seedling (Bramley)
>> Court Pendu Plat
>> Crawley Beauty
>> Enterprise
>> Gala
>> Gilpin
>> Golden Delicious
>> Goldrush
>> Hauer
>> King
>> King Edward
>> May Queen
>> Newtown Pippin
>> Nittany
>> Northern Spy
>> Prairie Spy
>> Rawl's Janet
>> Red Rome
>> Reinette d' Orlean
>> Rome Beauty
>> Spigold
>> Suntan
>> Sweet Sixteen
>> Winter Banana
>> Wolf River
>> York Imperial
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